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https://wikileaks.org/freesnowden https://wikileaks.org/freesnowden

by dgolds 13y ago

Pitarou 13y ago
Thanks for pointing that out but, to be clear, this fund is to feed the lawyers, not Mr Snowden.
Amadou 13y ago
That's legal defense, and I'm sure that's expensive. But what if we just want to send him some some money to reward him for making the sacrifice for all of us?
adamnemecek 13y ago
> Roland Tscheinig gave $4,000 > Thanks so much, Mr. Snowden, > Your sense of initiative is commendable and should serve as a guiding light for all of us. > Your contribution to our common future has been absolutely invaluable! Holy crap, this guy puts his money where his mouth is.
- Amadou 13y ago
  Many of us here can afford to do the same. A very close friend and business partner gave a similar amount to help Star Simpson with her situation because he believed very strongly that she was a victim of the War on Dignity. Star Simpson: http://boingboing.net/2008/09/22/star-simpson-one-yea.html http://boingboing.net/2008/09/22/star-simpson-one-yea.html
  - adamnemecek 13y ago
    Being able to afford it and actually doing it are two very different things.
  - jamesaguilar 13y ago
    Wow, I remember that. Did you know that she's the one who did that Taco Copter thing they were talking about on here a few months ago?? Cool.
    - samatman 13y ago
      Even better, she does things that aren't pranks! http://canidu.com/ http://canidu.com/ Don't get me wrong. Taco Copter is an excellent prank, and both of the pranksters involved are worth keeping an eye on. Especially if they can get into your home, laptop, or vehicle ;-)
- kken 13y ago
  It's interesting that many of the higher donations are from Germany.
  - adamnemecek 13y ago
    Yeah, I noticed that as well. Anyone willing to speculate?
    - mahyarm 13y ago
      Well looking at the comments, some germans make comparisons to growing up in east germany, the stasi, etc. And germany is the better performing economy in europe right now.
    - copx 13y ago
      People who grew up in Cold War West Germany (like me) got fed the propaganda that mass surveillance is totalitarian, communist evil because communist East Germany was infamous for it, so they are more likely to view these things as a serious infraction. I think Germany has the strongest anti-surveillance, pro-privacy movement in the world in general. We have a special word for it "Datenschutz" ("data protection"), which means: - protection against information about you being recorded without your consent - information about you being passed around without your consent We have a lot of Datenschutz laws and activists. And well the activists tend to be IT guys, and those tend to be well-paid. So lots of activist money available for the cause.
      - walshemj 13y ago
        But you in Germany seem happy with ID cards and reporting house moves to a police department which struck me as very odd given the recent history and especially the stazi in East Germany Id cards facilitate stop and search which is more worrying especially given the recent judgement by german judges that its fine to do this disappointingly to black citizens. In both the UK and the USA - there is more disquiet about this than what the NSA and GCHQ get up to.
    - MrBuddyCasino 13y ago

https://wikileaks.org/freesnowden https://wikileaks.org/freesnowden

by dgolds 13y ago

https://wikileaks.org/freesnowden https://wikileaks.org/freesnowden

Pitarou 13y ago

Thanks for pointing that out but, to be clear, this fund is to feed the lawyers, not Mr Snowden.

Amadou 13y ago

That's legal defense, and I'm sure that's expensive. But what if we just want to send him some some money to reward him for making the sacrifice for all of us?

adamnemecek 13y ago

> Roland Tscheinig gave $4,000 > Thanks so much, Mr. Snowden, > Your sense of initiative is commendable and should serve as a guiding light for all of us. > Your contribution to our common future has been absolutely invaluable! Holy crap, this guy puts his money where his mouth is.

Amadou 13y ago
Many of us here can afford to do the same. A very close friend and business partner gave a similar amount to help Star Simpson with her situation because he believed very strongly that she was a victim of the War on Dignity. Star Simpson: http://boingboing.net/2008/09/22/star-simpson-one-yea.html http://boingboing.net/2008/09/22/star-simpson-one-yea.html
- adamnemecek 13y ago
  Being able to afford it and actually doing it are two very different things.
- jamesaguilar 13y ago
  Wow, I remember that. Did you know that she's the one who did that Taco Copter thing they were talking about on here a few months ago?? Cool.
  - samatman 13y ago
    Even better, she does things that aren't pranks! http://canidu.com/ http://canidu.com/ Don't get me wrong. Taco Copter is an excellent prank, and both of the pranksters involved are worth keeping an eye on. Especially if they can get into your home, laptop, or vehicle ;-)
kken 13y ago
It's interesting that many of the higher donations are from Germany.
- adamnemecek 13y ago
  Yeah, I noticed that as well. Anyone willing to speculate?
  - mahyarm 13y ago
    Well looking at the comments, some germans make comparisons to growing up in east germany, the stasi, etc. And germany is the better performing economy in europe right now.
  - copx 13y ago
    People who grew up in Cold War West Germany (like me) got fed the propaganda that mass surveillance is totalitarian, communist evil because communist East Germany was infamous for it, so they are more likely to view these things as a serious infraction. I think Germany has the strongest anti-surveillance, pro-privacy movement in the world in general. We have a special word for it "Datenschutz" ("data protection"), which means: - protection against information about you being recorded without your consent - information about you being passed around without your consent We have a lot of Datenschutz laws and activists. And well the activists tend to be IT guys, and those tend to be well-paid. So lots of activist money available for the cause.
    - walshemj 13y ago
      But you in Germany seem happy with ID cards and reporting house moves to a police department which struck me as very odd given the recent history and especially the stazi in East Germany Id cards facilitate stop and search which is more worrying especially given the recent judgement by german judges that its fine to do this disappointingly to black citizens. In both the UK and the USA - there is more disquiet about this than what the NSA and GCHQ get up to.
  - MrBuddyCasino 13y ago