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It's interesting to see PR in action, especially as Proggit, HN, and several popular blogs have been sounding the HTML5-induced death knell for Flash in the las
by ATB 17y ago
It's interesting to see PR in action, especially as Proggit, HN, and several popular blogs have been sounding the HTML5-induced death knell for Flash in the last week or so. Translating the double-speak is actually good fun in this case. With all due respect to Jon Gruber, here is the PR-to-Human translation of this link:
The current WhatWG proposals called "HTML 5" have been stirring up a lot of polarizing speech lately
Positive attention to new technologies is only beneficial if Adobe has a clear monetization strategy for them. So we will introduce a controversy and try our best to make it "polarizing."
It's hard for Adobe to have an official opinion
But unofficially, Adobe will do everything possible to undermine the excitement over HTML5 and torpedo it at all cost.
whatever this consortium of minority browser vendors chooses to do
MINORITY. Get it? Unsupported! Unofficial! What happens if the minority goes away? Don't buy Tucker. Buy GM.
seeing what the final agreement turns out to be, and how it is eventually manifested in the world, both are prerequisites for practical tool-making
Given that we are a tool vendor, this is the only interesting part. And since we largely control the tool market for our tech, this is a major threat to us.
Still, I'm glad that an analyst asked a question about it at the quarterly financial call. Here's what Adobe CEO Shantanu Narayen had to say
What a threatened tool vendor CEO has to say is what you should use to form your opinion about a technology and its future viability.
I think the challenge for HTLM 5 will continue to be how do you get a consistent display of HTML 5 across browsers
The biggest challenge for HTML5 will be the constant undermining from companies that see their current tool strategy and quasi-monopoly threatened, such as us.
And when you think about when the rollout plans that are currently being talked about, they feel like it might be a decade before HTML 5 sees standardization across the number of browsers that are going to be out there.
If we keep repeating the fear of how long it might take to implement again and again, it will take even longer. Your hesitation equals cold hard cash for us.
we still think that actually the fragmentation of browsers makes Flash even more important rather than less important
When asked about a potential competitor, I always mention how its rise will make our product more important. Because that's what the board pays me to do.
Adobe's about communicating your ideas -- publishing to various channels -- not just about Flash. Dreamweaver, ColdFusion and the imaging tools all benefit from an increase in HTML.
Hey guys, remember ColdFusion? ... Guys?
Adobe profits from easing communication in general
Positive communication about Adobe products. And sowing FUD about competitors. But since Slashdot posters ran the term 'FUD' into the ground ten years ago, you can't use it anymore without being derided. SCORE!
Flash is a strong bet for emerging platforms
I'm high as a kite.
I'm increasingly uncomfortable with calling the WhatWG proposals "HTML 5" though
Giving something that might become a standard the appearance of legitimacy is dangerous to our business model. Open standards are the enemy of our proprietary tools.
What counts is not a press release, but a realworld deliverable
What is not deliverable, for instance, is Flash on iPhone and possibly many other portable devices, which appear to be the biggest growth market/land rush of the next decade. Allowing an open competitor like HTML5 to dominate that market would be fatal for us.
Shantanu's last point in there really resonates with me
Please give me a raise.
this whole "HTML5" campaign will likely benefit Flash, because few remain who oppose the idea that "experience matters"
Our experience in making cold hard cash from selling Flash tools matters the most. Using "scare quotes" will help de-legitimize HTML5.
Things are quite a bit different than five years ago.
We now have a virtual monopoly on serving casual video on the web. We will fight anything that threatens us.
iPhone helped to radically increase the number of phones with Flash support
The new QuickTime X plays Flash videos natively. We might be screwed.
the "HTML5" publicity helps marginalize those few who still argue that images, animation, audio/video and rich interactivity have no place on the web
HTML5 uses open standards to play those file formats natively, which severely undercuts our tool/server profits.
Flash will be able to deliver on those heightened expectations, regardless of what each separate browser engine does.
Fuck you, WHATWG, Chrome, Mozilla, Safari.
- johnnybgoode 17y agoGood stuff. I often wonder what it takes to be a PR bot. I think there are two ways of doing it: 1) The PR bot is actually a thinking human, and knows full well what he/she is doing. Just as ATB has done a PR-to-Human translation here, the PR bot does a Human-to-PR translation before posting. 2) The PR bot comes to sincerely believe the PR. This could be because he/she is just stupid, or because his/her salary depends on whatever is being pushed and this has subconsciously affected his/her brain.
- godDLL 17y agoIt is both. #1 happens before the action, during research and development of tactical speech, and #2 happens during composing/talking -- your audience won't believe you if you don't believe it yourself, and it quickens your responses considerably just by being in the mind-set.
- johnnybgoode 17y agoAlso, along with the scare quotes around HTML5, notice that he calls them "WhatWG proposals" in an effort to belittle them. The W3C is involved now, too. Sorry, Adobe.
- jdowdell 17y agoLess "scare quotes", more recognition of the nominalization being used. Much of the WhatWG evangelism tries to portray these proposals as a done deal, using phrases like "the HTML 5 standard". But none of us today know how that process will eventually turn out. The browser vendors within the WhatWG have been trying to define a multimedia engine for years... phrase "HTML5" first got on my radar four years ago: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2005/06/html5.html http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2005/06/html5.html The W3C has bought in to the WhatWG's work, but there's much ambivalence too, particularly as it attempts to rewrite existing Standards and Recommendations (URLs, accessibility), and how editorial control is so focused in so few hands. Hard to say at this point how it will all turn out. Bottom line, what we conveniently call "HTML5" here is not necessarily what a future "HTML 5.0 Recommendation" may be. (Or, more tersely, "don't jump the gun. ;-) By the way, who are you? I remember researching the handle "johnnybgoode" a year or two ago, but this Hacker News account is recent. It's funny to see people arguing about how "open" they are when they keep their identities hidden... attaching your reputation to your opinions raises their value. You can hide if you wish, but why not open up...?