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Parrot VM v1.3.0 Released

50 points by chorny 17y ago

GeneralMaximus 17y ago
I am waiting for the day when these guys say, "Okay, we're done. Now go write some Perl 6 and run it on our VM".
- kingkongrevenge 17y ago
  That day was well back last year.
geuis 17y ago
Can someone provide some examples of what Parrot is useful for? Maybe some everyday scenarios?
- chorny 17y ago
  See http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7373 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7373 for example
- draegtun 17y ago
  http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=663019 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=663019
johnnybgoode 17y ago
As I said at http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=656493 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=656493, I don't see why the communities for other dynamic languages are still investing so much effort into building new VMs instead of collaborating on something like this.
- enomar 17y ago
  I too, really like the idea of a single VM for many languages. Having just watched the Google IO video on V8, I'm starting to think there are some serious advantages to specialized engines. For example, V8 replaced the regular expression engine that Webkit was using with one that was specially designed to work with Javascript's regex syntax. Maybe you can get similar performance with a generalized engine, but I'm no longer of the mind that one VM for all languages will be the end-all-be-all solution. http://code.google.com/events/io/sessions/V8BuildingHighPerfJavascriptEngine.html http://code.google.com/events/io/sessions/V8BuildingHighPerf...
  - johnnybgoode 17y ago
    This guy seems to agree with you: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=662553 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=662553 ;) In the big picture I don't know if something like that matters as much as sharing a lot of advanced VM techniques.
    - stcredzero 17y ago
      If it just makes implementing languages with decent performance and good GC easier, then it has benefited us tremendously. If it can additionally free a language developer from the hurdle of "there's not that many libraries yet" then this is also a good thing.
zokier 17y ago
Parrot is indeed interesting, kinda like .NET for more 'fun' languages, and of course with full FOSS spirit. But is Parrot currently actually usable for 'real' work? Is any language implemented extensively enough for normal day-to-day-scripting?

50 points by chorny 17y ago

GeneralMaximus 17y ago

I am waiting for the day when these guys say, "Okay, we're done. Now go write some Perl 6 and run it on our VM".

kingkongrevenge 17y ago
That day was well back last year.

geuis 17y ago

Can someone provide some examples of what Parrot is useful for? Maybe some everyday scenarios?

chorny 17y ago
See http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7373 http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7373 for example
draegtun 17y ago
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=663019 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=663019

johnnybgoode 17y ago

As I said at http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=656493 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=656493, I don't see why the communities for other dynamic languages are still investing so much effort into building new VMs instead of collaborating on something like this.

enomar 17y ago
I too, really like the idea of a single VM for many languages. Having just watched the Google IO video on V8, I'm starting to think there are some serious advantages to specialized engines. For example, V8 replaced the regular expression engine that Webkit was using with one that was specially designed to work with Javascript's regex syntax. Maybe you can get similar performance with a generalized engine, but I'm no longer of the mind that one VM for all languages will be the end-all-be-all solution. http://code.google.com/events/io/sessions/V8BuildingHighPerfJavascriptEngine.html http://code.google.com/events/io/sessions/V8BuildingHighPerf...
- johnnybgoode 17y ago
  This guy seems to agree with you: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=662553 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=662553 ;) In the big picture I don't know if something like that matters as much as sharing a lot of advanced VM techniques.
  - stcredzero 17y ago
    If it just makes implementing languages with decent performance and good GC easier, then it has benefited us tremendously. If it can additionally free a language developer from the hurdle of "there's not that many libraries yet" then this is also a good thing.

zokier 17y ago

Parrot is indeed interesting, kinda like .NET for more 'fun' languages, and of course with full FOSS spirit. But is Parrot currently actually usable for 'real' work? Is any language implemented extensively enough for normal day-to-day-scripting?