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Those characteristics apply to narcissists. All sociopath are narcissists but not all narcissists are sociopaths. Sociopaths cannot feel empathy or guilt. Those
by oseibonsu 13y ago
Those characteristics apply to narcissists. All sociopath are narcissists but not all narcissists are sociopaths. Sociopaths cannot feel empathy or guilt. Those who suffer from narcissistic personality disorder feel guilt and are driven by a deep sense of insecurity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disord...
- gavanwoolery 13y agoYep - that is entirely true. But wouldn't you feel guilty if you humiliated a girl like JFK did at the pool with Powers? It seemed that JFK had no remorse about any of his actions -- but again, this is just working off the material I am reading here (which matches some other accounts of his behavior).
- vinceguidry 13y agoHe did apologize to her. He didn't have to.
- phaus 13y agoActually, the article mentions that JFK apologized to both of them afterwards.
- gavanwoolery 13y agoApologizing is different from feeling guilt (or doing it in the first place) - that said this is still very much the realm of hypothesis for me so I would gladly be wrong. Sociopaths are able to blend in fairly well exactly because of things like this - they can even put on the mask of caring or feeling guilty without being either. I used to work with a sociopath (99 percent certain of this) - he would do completely reckless things with company money, then when I would call him out on it he would apologize. Later he would repeat the same offenses. Similarly, I don't think this was Kennedy's last questionable action.
- Amadou 13y agothen when I would call him out on it he would apologize. Later he would repeat the same offenses. Yes, that fits the profile of a sociopath - he manipulated you in order to get you off his back. The question wrt JFK is whether apologizing to her and his staffer was done out of a sense of guilt or was it just manipulation for his own gain. Unfortunately the article does not give us enough details to decide one way or the other.
- tptacek 13y agoHe apologized after Powers called him out; the circumstance demanded an apology.
- phaus 13y agoIt could have been an insincere apology, but there's no way to know from the article. Whether he was sorry or not, what he did to his interns would correctly be considered rape by today's standards. Personally, I detest JFK and people like him, but I'm not sure if he was a sociopath. There's definitely enough evidence to make us wonder if he was, but probably not enough to get a definitive answer.
- hannibal5 13y agoJFK sex affairs would be typical cases of sexual narcissism to overcompensate for low self-esteem and an inability to experience true intimacy.
- toasterlovin 13y agoOr they are simply a reflection of the male reproductive strategy.
- cafard 13y agoThe low self esteem typical of those born to millions, decorated for their military service, and from a young age continually elected to public office?
- hannibal5 13y agoLow self esteem is build in youth. He came from very weird family. Jack was ignored and his father favored Joe who was groomed to become the president.
- slashdotaccount 13y agoplease keep your pseudoscience in your pants. your silly book has been disbarred, and now proper mocked http://boingboing.net/2013/10/20/dsmv-reviewed-as-a-work-of-dys.html http://boingboing.net/2013/10/20/dsmv-reviewed-as-a-work-of-...
- FireBeyond 13y agoWhat on earth are you on about? DSM-5 has been disbarred? Not that a book can be disbarred. Mocked? Oh, wow. An online website of cultural criticism published an opinion piece on a medical classification and diagnostic tool. I guess we better throw it in the trash.
- andrewcooke 13y agosociopaths are a subset of narcissists. sociopaths are narcissists. narcassists feel guilt. sociopaths cannot feel guilt. something you wrote is wrong - you are contradicting yourself.
- yohui 13y agoNo, what oseibonsu was saying is that we're starting with humans in general (who are capable of feeling guilt), to narcissists (still capable), to sociopaths (incapable).
- andrewcooke 13y agothen why make sociopaths a subset of narcissists? it adds absolutely nothing to what he was saying. they could be completely separate sets and it wouldn't change the argument. the wikipedia page on narcissists has no mention of sociopaths - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disord... - while the page on sociopaths only mentions narcissists as a possible subtype or coexistence - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder in short, when someone on the internet says contradictory things it's much more likely they are half-remembering something they read in a magazine five years ago than that they are a subject expert.
- yohui 13y agoI was only objecting to the way you presented your criticism: that one category couldn't be a subset of another because the subset seems to lack a feature that the superset has. Criticize for the right reasons, etc.