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I'm happy for Mozilla, but I hope OEM's start experimenting with another native open source OS like Ubuntu Touch, too.

• oscargrouch 13y ago
  Agree. We need more phones that let people install whatever applications they are building, without locking in centralized app stores, or by forcing to use some technology that dont let people get into the phones internals.. A simple, open and hackable OS.. where you can create a simple main() in c and go from there.. then you can embed Lua or webkit+JS if you like to... Its too much to ask?
  • sandstrom 13y ago
    I think the Firefox OS actually allows multiple stores and is far less locked down than, say iOS.
    • oscargrouch 13y ago
      > without locking in centralized app stores, in that statement i was looking at iOS, for sure > or by forcing to use some technology that dont let people get into the phones internals That one was created especifically with FirefoxOS in mind.. and before anyone ask: NO, Emscripten doenst count.. its pure madness this is being pushed like if it were some sort of solution to all of our problems; it can be done, but doenst mean its a good idea.. They should have opened for AOT compiled languages from day 1. Its OK to promote JS + HTML5 as primary target, but marginalizing native will only make this platform a no-go for a lot of very good applications out there.. and even if they can convince people to port to JS , or by going the Emscripten way (something very unlikelly) even than.. the apps will behave like crap.. cause JS, despite all the effort to make it fast, and despite being very fast, and its not there yet.. also the Web itself its not there yet.. Its a cool and romantic vision, but the question is if this will stand against iOS and Android in terms of quality and usability.. if they bet all their chips in HTML and JS only.. i think that is unlikely to happen.. and being in the low end of the phone industry chain; its a pretty harsh place to be
      • bad_user 13y ago
        > marginalizing native will only make this platform a no-go for a lot of very good applications out there Not marginalizing native, not going with JS+HTML5 for the whole interface, also makes it completely uninteresting. You can't win market-share away from Android unless you target a different market (which is quite difficult, as Android and iOS are everywhere) and/or you're newsworthy. Notice the complete failure of Windows Phone, even with Nokia and Microsoft's muscles behind it. And at least Firefox OS is newsworthy in the sense that (1) it's building a whole OS interface around the web, which makes us web developers happy and (2) the browser is the best sandbox, so in regards to malware you can eliminate the need for "curated" marketplaces. > NO, Emscripten doenst count.. its pure madness this is being pushed like if it were some sort of solution to all of our problems Apps compiled with Emscripten run everywhere and they run fine in both Chrome and Firefox. Emscripten is targeting asm.js. On Firefox, asm.js is AOT compiled by the browser. Performance is pretty good too. Many Android developers don't seem to mind writing games in Java, so where's the problem? > the Web itself its not there yet Well, that's one the goals of Firefox OS. To push the web forward. As part of its mission statement, Firefox OS will introduce new APIs that will be then pushed for standardization. It's a win-win for everybody. > stand against iOS and Android in terms of quality and usability Quality and usability aren't the only things that matter. > being in the low end of the phone industry chain; its a pretty harsh place to be That's also the only place where a new operating system has any chance of winning any marketshare whatsoever. It's a seriously ignored market after Nokia dropped the ball.
  • VladRussian2 13y ago
    >A simple, open and hackable OS.. lets hope that like 20+ years ago, somewhere some young Linus is making it right now ...