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IsoHunt to Shut Down as Part of Settlement With Studios
- NiekvdMaas 13y agoMore info can be found in the MPAA press release: http://mpaa.org/resources/52c16680-37ab-4f0a-9756-b850fe37ca1c.pdf http://mpaa.org/resources/52c16680-37ab-4f0a-9756-b850fe37ca... The shut down date os Oct 23, 2013 (in a week from now).
- znowi 13y agoMPAA doesn't get it. Costly lobbying and crushing lawsuits is not how you defeat piracy. This is how you do it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0ukYf_xvgc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0ukYf_xvgc
- lallysingh 13y agoThen perhaps they're not really trying to defeat piracy? If they're trying to justify the position of middle-men (say, recording studios in music), then the lawsuits show them adding value. Even when distribution is no longer difficult, thanks to the internet.
- dergachev 13y agoThat's brilliant.
- shmerl 13y agoI'd say lawsuits show them "doing something". And pirates are there to hang all their failures on to when they need.
- DrJokepu 13y agoI don't think "middle man" is an accurate way to describe record labels. Record labels are mostly about financing recording (just like a bank finances your mortgage), driving the A&R process (this is crucial for pop music) and managing distribution. Publishers are, however, the real middle men with very real profits…
- JonnieCache 13y agoRecording studios are not middlemen. That's where records get made. You can only go so far in your bedroom before you need a room with a million dollars of equipment in it. That's the problem with these modern ideas about people producing content off their own back, it's not actually possible. You can't make star trek on a macbook pro with final cut, and you can't make a highly produced album with 10 musicians in your bedroom.
- bnastic 13y agoUnfortunatelly, so few people, even on this board, understand this. And the whole "artists should be poor and art should be free" idea expressed here many times is all that taken to extreme.
- rux 13y agoYou can make truly amazing music without the million dollars of equipment though! It's an optional extra, and I would argue that we would not be culturally less rich if those studios went out of existence. Worst case is that we would just have equally good music with a few slightly rough edges. As an example, I still choose Seth Lakeman's early recordings over his more recent even though they were made on a budget of a quarter of a macbook pro.
- aroch 13y agoIsoHunt has been largely irrelevant in the US for the last several years since they started filtering US IPs[1] and even before then was a pretty poor selection of torrents with many displaying completely incorrect swarm data. While I'm not personally bothered by this (from the point of view of someone who used IsoHunt) I do find this settlement quite annoying and Dodd to be completely abysmal as a person. _____________ [1] http://torrentfreak.com/isohunt-redirects-us-visitors-to-lite-version-100406/ http://torrentfreak.com/isohunt-redirects-us-visitors-to-lit...
- mcantelon 13y agoWhat are better sites for torrent search? I've actually had good luck with ISOhunt.
- Munksgaard 13y agoTPB works fine enough for me.
- dmix 13y agoKickasstorrents is the best atm in my opinion. TPB is good but their legal issues make them unreliable technically and I prefer non-magnet links for use with rtorrent.
- anaphor 13y agortorrent supports magnet links just fine if you're using a recent version (As in one from the past year or two).
- theperson 13y agoFor torrent searching alone, torrentz.eu or bitsnoop. For a community, kickasstorrents.
- cabalamat 13y agohttp://torrentz.eu/ http://torrentz.eu/
- esw 13y agoWhat's stunning to me is the $110 million dollar judgment. Did the site really make that much money, or is this a decision designed to condemn the founder to a lifetime of poverty?
- jackweirdy 13y agoIt said $150,000 per infringement (!) and I highly doubt the site made anywhere near that amount in revenue, let alone profit
- theperson 13y ago> let alone profit I don't understand why people think torrent websites are not profitable. Reddit and TF comments always claim it's not-for-profit. IsoHunt might not have as much profit as TPB due to it's constant lawsuits. However, hosting a website like IsoHunt is fairly lightweight in comparison to hosting YouTube. Torrents are tiny files, $30k server bills per month at most, probably they spend $10k/mo. They have ads and paid membership. I doubt they earn $110 million, but I do believe it's likely that they atleast earn $4 mill per year. Keep in mind there website has a lot of traffic.
- derefr 13y ago> Torrents are tiny files ThePirateBay, for one, no longer even stores torrents--only magnet links. I wonder what kind of profit margin their ads pull in...
- suby 13y agoWho would want to advertise on TPB, though? I have to wonder how much those ads could possibly go for considering it's a website focused on giving you something for free which you would ordinarily have to pay for. I am aware that there are legitimate files on TPB, but most people visit for pirated content.
- benologist 13y ago
- 300bps 13y agoOh no! What is 2004 me going to do to find torrents now?
- jerlundy 13y agoYou won't get much at 300bps.
- DigitalSea 13y ago2004 is not stoked with this decision, that's for sure.
- saejox 13y agoWhy do they even try? It takes an hour to change the logo and host it somewhere else.
- DannyBee 13y agoSo that they can later justify draconian piracy laws. "It took us seven years to get this one site down, a site that caused us over 110 million dollars in piracy, and we couldn't even collect any of it. Within hours of a court order, the site was back up with a new name. <Thus, you should require ISP's to filter their traffic, or whatever> "
- jedanbik 13y agoWow, it's like the anti-acquisition.
- Tichy 13y agoWhat is everybody using for piracy these days?
- MrZongle2 13y agoI was hoping to go with a parrot and a speedboat off of the Horn of Africa, but with the economy as it is I've had to settle with a parakeet and a dinghy in the local catchwater.
- ericd 13y agoI hear Usenet (Astraweb, for example) with SABnzbd/Sick Beard/nzbsearch.net works really well.
- diaz 13y agoIrc Abjects server. Eztv for series. SubtitleSeeker for subtitles. Tokyotosho for anime. TPB for other stuff and duck duck go for the remaining.
- mcantelon 13y agoGary Fung's not a US citizen AFAIK. What leverage do they have to force him to pay?