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That's dumb, just because someone isn't willing to go to an extreme measure to prevent something doesn't mean that more moderate measures are unreasonable. Bann
by npc 13y ago
That's dumb, just because someone isn't willing to go to an extreme measure to prevent something doesn't mean that more moderate measures are unreasonable. Banning all electronic devices on airplanes would be a major headache for everyone involved and would probably be overkill, but the risk is still non-zero and asking passengers to turn devices off for a few minutes during the two most dangerous times in a flight is perfectly reasonable.
- CamperBob2 13y agoBanning all electronic devices on airplanes would be a major headache for everyone involved I think we've seen that this is not a problem for the Powers that Be. It's not as if the TSA chairman ever has to fly coach. and would probably be overkill I'm certain that we've seen that this is not an obstacle for implementation by the government. but the risk is still non-zero (Shrug) Zero accidents out of tens of millions of flights in which you can be pretty sure that at least one passenger has left their phone on. Close enough to zero risk for me.
- snom380 13y agoYou're still welcome to get a PPL and have as many cell phones as you wish turned on while you fly. If you think anything that doesn't directly cause accidents aren't worth regulating, you don't truly appreciate why we have such good air safety. Letting he pilots chit-chat when landing can't hurt either, right? Millions of successful flights before the sterile cockpit environment idea came about, would perhaps seem like close to zero risk for you, yet we are all safer now because of it.
- CamperBob2 13y agoLife offers you no guarantees, and risk avoidance costs money, time, and convenience. How safe do you want to be? Speaking for myself, I was fine about three nines ago.
- snom380 13y agoThat's the problem though. You don't fly thousands of passengers each day and have seen several of your peers bankrupted or seriously financially wounded by a single high profile accident, so you might have a different view on the risks compared to the ones running the airline. By definition I take far more risk when flying a single-prop light aircraft, and I'm fine with that. What I don't expect is to be able to force that risk level on other people.
- CamperBob2 13y agoBut you haven't shown that there is any risk, and neither has anyone else. Which (again) is why we're still allowed to bring electronic devices up to and including cell phones onboard passenger aircraft. You can't run a civilization on the Precautionary Principle. You understand that, right? Most people understand that, but the TSA and (until now) FAA don't seem to.
- dkersten 13y agoBut you haven't shown that there is any risk, and neither has anyone else. Shouldn't it be the other way around? Shouldn't the onus be on proving that there is no risk, not that there is?
- CamperBob2 13y agoThat's called the Precautionary Principle. It would have kept us confined to the caves, if not the trees.