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Being hipster is just trying to look cool for doing everything that isn't actually cool. Being geek is about doing things that you like that just happen to be g
by L4mppu 13y ago
Being hipster is just trying to look cool for doing everything that isn't actually cool. Being geek is about doing things that you like that just happen to be geeky.
- EvanKelly 13y agoIt's very presumptuous of you to assume that "hipsters" don't actually enjoy the things they do.
- Dylan16807 13y agoIf they actually enjoy what they're doing, and not the feeling of being 'counterculture', then they're not being "hipsters". It's pretty simple.
- sequoia 13y agoDo you think they're doing it (playing Go, listening to vinyl, whatever) despite not enjoying it? That seems a weird, self-sacrificing thing to do.
- Dylan16807 13y agoIt's not like vinyl is a huge sacrifice in quality. I think you underestimate the value of feeling special/cool, especially in somebody 15-25.
- yareally 13y agoThey drink PBR, I think that says enough about self-sacrificing if one has any tastebuds left.
- jlgreco 13y agoPBR is very cheap, and actually very tolerable when you are in the market for cheap American lagers. Before it got a reputation for being "hipster" it was a popular "blue collar" beer, and for good reason. I'd call it better than Budweiser, worse than Coors. Certainly better than the other heavyweight in 'cheap booze that young people drink': Natural Light. For some reason drinking natty light is not seen to be as damming an indicator on a persons character though... that is reserved for PBR.
- yareally 13y agoGood points. I think they're all pretty awful (relatively speaking, if one is doing more than getting plastered), but somehow only the one gets the negative connotation. Though, I will admit my early college years I did drink them all at some point regrettably, even at least one PBR that I know of offhand.
- te_chris 13y agoOutside of America I can assure that bud and miller both have very negative connotations ;)
- jlgreco 13y agoNegative connotations as in "these are very bad beers", or negative connotations as in "anyone who drinks these must be wildly uncool"? The first exists in the US, but the second doesn't really (outside a few circles typically called 'beer snobs' ;).
- te_chris 13y agoThe first, it also tends to extend to most american beer (excluding some of the bigger craft ones which have made it out of the states) and cars, in my personal experience. Although for a perverse few who idolise american culture, bud etc are aspirational, so each to their own I guess?
- TheLegace 13y agoAs a Canadian, where I think beer has a more logical percentage ;) I agree. I've been to Utah and see what kind of nonsense they do with beer.
- omegaham 13y agoCall me strange, but there are times when I am honestly happy to get a Bud Light. It's cheap, very light, and still gives me a "You're drinking a beer" feeling. It's relaxing. I definitely prefer Sierra Nevada, Stone IPA, and Harpoon to Bud Light 95% of the time, but there are days when it's 115 degrees out and my mind says "I want beer-flavored water." The worst beer, by far, is heavy beer that tastes like garbage. I can drink Natty Light and be happy; I cannot drink a heavy beer that tastes bad.
- bloodroot 13y agoHaha whoah whoah whoah since when is playing Go hipster and something that 'they' do? This whole us vs. them turn in the conversation is making me suddenly uncomfortable.
- EvanKelly 13y agoWhat's wrong with enjoying the feeling of being counterculture? This whole anti-hipster sentiment is so bizarre to me. It's all about policing other peoples' fashion/taste/activities without reason. The idea that hipsters are somehow not genuine doesn't make any sense. What is there to be genuine to? If you use an old film camera because you like the photos it takes and are fascinated by how it operates, more power to you. If you use an old film camera because you think it looks cool around your neck, more power to you. If you use an old film camera because you like the fact that you're one of the only people using one, more power to you.
- Dylan16807 13y ago>What's wrong with enjoying the feeling of being counterculture? In terms of a stereotypical hipster, it's because it's being smug that you're not following the crowd. But you get there by paying a lot of attention to what the crowd likes, and using that as your primary decision maker. AKA you're following the crowd. It's okay to like being unique, but find a niche though your own preferences, not though hypocritical reasoning.
- comrade_ogilvy 13y agoI suppose there is a kind of self-contradiction is trying to be "fashionably unfashionable" which seems ripe for mockery. But, in practice, the mockery boils down to an exercise in More Authentic Than Thou based on guesses from superficial details. Isn't making judgements about authenticity based on a few superficial details an even more loathsome exercise in hypocrisy? I do like EvanKelly's point here: "What is there to be genuine to."? What the heck is someone supposed to wear that is neither an overt exercise in conformity or a contrived exercise in non-conformity? What would in between or opting out of the pretense look like? In fact, it might look a lot like Mr. Hermelin, whose clothes look functional and cheap, without any visible labels, without any apparent in-factory distressing of the fabric.
- mrgreenfur 13y agoI like this response. I'm not sure that I'm mentally mature enough to actually sustain it, but I like it the best. Let people do whatever they like and don't bother judging or grouping them too much. Edit: fixed broken english.
- smsm42 13y agoNo true Scotsman! (http://is.gd/rnFMt7 http://is.gd/rnFMt7)
- grahamburger 13y agoNo true Scotsman would do something he didn't actually enjoy.
- Nursie 13y agoOf course they don't like it, if they actually liked what they were doing it wouldn't be ironic!
- astrodust 13y agoDepends on your definition of "hipster". Some people just look like hipsters because they don't actually care what you think, not because they're trying to stand out. You want to use a typewriter at the local coffee shop? Rock on.
- MaysonL 13y agoWhen he does it, it's phony hipsterism. When you do it, it's pitiable nerdism. When I do it, it's cool. :)