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What's that 14.7% of 'Information Systems' unemployed graduates? People that degree in IT but can't actually code/sysadmin/whatever is the technical skill they

What's that 14.7% of 'Information Systems' unemployed graduates? People that degree in IT but can't actually code/sysadmin/whatever is the technical skill they're supposed to have?

vonmoltke 13y ago
Not sure. The numbers in the infographic are from Georgetown's latest study[1], but I cannot find a definition of what Georgetown's categories are. However, their chart makes it clear that engineering and computer science are not part of the "Information Systems" umbrella, and since this only covers Bachelors holders or greater I have to assume the category covers CIS, MIS, and similar "business technology" type degrees. [1] http://cew.georgetown.edu/unemployment2013/ http://cew.georgetown.edu/unemployment2013/
netcan 13y ago
Probably. There's a non trivial number of these around. Politicians, students, parents, etc. are keen to build relevant skills is high demand areas. On paper that's great. In reality creating programs overnight and admitting students without the vocation because the funding and students are available is a recipe for problems. There are a lot of "IT Specialists," graphic designers and other (genuinely needed) "professionals" around that can't do anything useful. Some didn't like it, so never got good. Some are just unsuitable talent-wise (I don't think I could have ever been more than a barely competent designer). For some it's a combination of things. Below average suitability. No motivation. Bottom rung course. Thinking of Tertiary Schools as factories for turning people into professionals at something is problematic analogy. Often its a case of we need to do something, lets do this. The result is weird numbers. High unemployment in high vacancy professions.
brd 13y ago
I would assume the issue is that most Information System degrees are unaccredited. There are only 36 IS programs accredited in the US.

What's that 14.7% of 'Information Systems' unemployed graduates? People that degree in IT but can't actually code/sysadmin/whatever is the technical skill they're supposed to have?

vonmoltke 13y ago

Not sure. The numbers in the infographic are from Georgetown's latest study[1], but I cannot find a definition of what Georgetown's categories are. However, their chart makes it clear that engineering and computer science are not part of the "Information Systems" umbrella, and since this only covers Bachelors holders or greater I have to assume the category covers CIS, MIS, and similar "business technology" type degrees. [1] http://cew.georgetown.edu/unemployment2013/ http://cew.georgetown.edu/unemployment2013/

netcan 13y ago

Probably. There's a non trivial number of these around. Politicians, students, parents, etc. are keen to build relevant skills is high demand areas. On paper that's great. In reality creating programs overnight and admitting students without the vocation because the funding and students are available is a recipe for problems. There are a lot of "IT Specialists," graphic designers and other (genuinely needed) "professionals" around that can't do anything useful. Some didn't like it, so never got good. Some are just unsuitable talent-wise (I don't think I could have ever been more than a barely competent designer). For some it's a combination of things. Below average suitability. No motivation. Bottom rung course. Thinking of Tertiary Schools as factories for turning people into professionals at something is problematic analogy. Often its a case of we need to do something, lets do this. The result is weird numbers. High unemployment in high vacancy professions.

brd 13y ago

I would assume the issue is that most Information System degrees are unaccredited. There are only 36 IS programs accredited in the US.