I was referring to the cut/selection of the shirt coupled with the tying of the tie. My mistake for not making that clear. You are correct. Ties are intrinsi

I was referring to the cut/selection of the shirt coupled with the tying of the tie. My mistake for not making that clear. You are correct. Ties are intrinsically constraining. And so are belts. I find that if I want to be more thoughtful and creative, removing my belt does the trick. ;-) The people around me, especially the women, have gotten used to my trousers down at my ankles. :-D