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Guess what? People I don't know in a porn video performing sexual acts as their profession in order to sexually arouse people watching them are "impersonal obje

by pstack 13y ago

Guess what? People I don't know in a porn video performing sexual acts as their profession in order to sexually arouse people watching them are "impersonal objects". So are male and female models who exist as clothing-racks or make-up canvases. Musicians and actors exist to entertain and their dignity and personality are not relevant. My garbageman is a guy who exists to make my cans of trash go away. Even you, as highly as you must regard every human interaction in your every moment of existence, surely deal with a great number of people on a regular basis who exist simply to perform a function that you benefit from. As for "you can essentially do what you will with them"... I think that speaks more to you than anyone who enjoys porn, strippers, pinup posters, musicians, dancers, actors, or anyone else that they have no personal regard for. That statement is kind of like a religious person finding out that I'm an atheist and incredulously responding with "if you don't believe in god, how come you're not out raping and murdering people?!".

chris_wot 13y ago
Sadly for me, I struggle with sexual objectification of women. If there was one aspect of my life I wish I cold change instantly, that would be it. I work on it daily. However, when I deal with a garbageman, I treat him with respect because I know he's a human being doing his work. I don't see him as just a garbageman, though I interact with him with that primary purpose. But I can honestly never say I've ever considered my garbageman as only "someone who makes my garbage go away". This would allow me to be an arsehole to him while he is doing his job. Lets say you see the garbageman fall over and break his leg. I'll bet you'd call an ambulance. Congratulations if this is the case, he is no longer just someone who takes away your garbage - you have not objectified him. I never interact with clothes models, but then I don't look at the clothes model when I look at a catalog (not consciously anyway), mostly at the clothes. If I was to interact with them, then I would hope not to treat them as just an object. When I watch a good movie, I interact with the character the actor plays - I don't objectify the actor in this case. I knowmthenactor is acting, and appreciate them for their personality and performance. As for strippers and porn: I've never been to a stripshow in my life, and will never do so. I've had plenty of opportunities, but have always declined. Why? I don't want to objectify the strippers. And I don't want them objectifying me as the punter. For porn: that's something I try to avoid at all costs. Not easy.

by pstack 13y ago

chris_wot 13y ago

Sadly for me, I struggle with sexual objectification of women. If there was one aspect of my life I wish I cold change instantly, that would be it. I work on it daily. However, when I deal with a garbageman, I treat him with respect because I know he's a human being doing his work. I don't see him as just a garbageman, though I interact with him with that primary purpose. But I can honestly never say I've ever considered my garbageman as only "someone who makes my garbage go away". This would allow me to be an arsehole to him while he is doing his job. Lets say you see the garbageman fall over and break his leg. I'll bet you'd call an ambulance. Congratulations if this is the case, he is no longer just someone who takes away your garbage - you have not objectified him. I never interact with clothes models, but then I don't look at the clothes model when I look at a catalog (not consciously anyway), mostly at the clothes. If I was to interact with them, then I would hope not to treat them as just an object. When I watch a good movie, I interact with the character the actor plays - I don't objectify the actor in this case. I knowmthenactor is acting, and appreciate them for their personality and performance. As for strippers and porn: I've never been to a stripshow in my life, and will never do so. I've had plenty of opportunities, but have always declined. Why? I don't want to objectify the strippers. And I don't want them objectifying me as the punter. For porn: that's something I try to avoid at all costs. Not easy.