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5 points by rcollamore 17y ago

bayareaguy 17y ago
If your site relies on javascript to work, tell me or I'll think it's just broken.
- sfphotoarts 17y ago
  function vote(node) Please! javascript is an essential component of every modern web site. If you want to live in a cave and think that flickering shadow on the wall is all there is to the world then fine, but not all of us are imprisoned by progress.
  - bayareaguy 17y ago
    Sorry, I use a browser which trivially allows me to only enable executable content for sites I trust and until you're one of them no javascript for you.
    - sfphotoarts 17y ago
      Your preferences are your business, but just because you don't run javascript doesn't mean a site is broken. It means you have a default setting that is in conflict with the current state, and direction of the web. If I do: csh> lynx www.facebook.com [et al.] it really doens't mean facebook is broken. That's my point - you're mixing up your personal preferences (paranoia) with the condition of a web site and they are not the same thing. Fortunately many others are willing to move with the times, otherwise we'd all be still running gopher://news.ycombinator.com
      - bayareaguy 17y ago
        If your site requires JS, not bothering to tell people just shows how much you (don't) care about your users. It's interesting you bring up facebook. I'm not a facebook user, but on I whim I just went there and what's the first thing they told me: Sign Up It's free and anyone can join Javascript is disabled on your browser. Please enable JavaScript on your browser or upgrade to a Javascript-capable browser to register for Facebook. That tells me that the people at FB care enough about my time and theirs to tell me their requirements before I use the site.
  - gojomo 17y ago
    Still, it's really easy to have a "this site requires Javascript" message. It also demonstrates a minimal level of design diligence. (It's a little like ensuring labels work to toggle checkboxes, or not using fixed-size fonts, and so on.)

5 points by rcollamore 17y ago

bayareaguy 17y ago

If your site relies on javascript to work, tell me or I'll think it's just broken.

sfphotoarts 17y ago
function vote(node) Please! javascript is an essential component of every modern web site. If you want to live in a cave and think that flickering shadow on the wall is all there is to the world then fine, but not all of us are imprisoned by progress.
- bayareaguy 17y ago
  Sorry, I use a browser which trivially allows me to only enable executable content for sites I trust and until you're one of them no javascript for you.
  - sfphotoarts 17y ago
    Your preferences are your business, but just because you don't run javascript doesn't mean a site is broken. It means you have a default setting that is in conflict with the current state, and direction of the web. If I do: csh> lynx www.facebook.com [et al.] it really doens't mean facebook is broken. That's my point - you're mixing up your personal preferences (paranoia) with the condition of a web site and they are not the same thing. Fortunately many others are willing to move with the times, otherwise we'd all be still running gopher://news.ycombinator.com
    - bayareaguy 17y ago
      If your site requires JS, not bothering to tell people just shows how much you (don't) care about your users. It's interesting you bring up facebook. I'm not a facebook user, but on I whim I just went there and what's the first thing they told me: Sign Up It's free and anyone can join Javascript is disabled on your browser. Please enable JavaScript on your browser or upgrade to a Javascript-capable browser to register for Facebook. That tells me that the people at FB care enough about my time and theirs to tell me their requirements before I use the site.
- gojomo 17y ago
  Still, it's really easy to have a "this site requires Javascript" message. It also demonstrates a minimal level of design diligence. (It's a little like ensuring labels work to toggle checkboxes, or not using fixed-size fonts, and so on.)