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I'm very glad to see that this answer hasn't been closed as not constructive! It seems like most popular questions like this are, even though they're incredibl

I'm very glad to see that this answer hasn't been closed as not constructive! It seems like most popular questions like this are, even though they're incredibly useful and insightful. I was leaning toward learning Ember, but this post makes me really curious about Angular. In particular, the ease of testing has my interest piqued. Is testing as simple/easy with Ember? I know that unlike Angular, Ember doesn't have DI as a core feature. Either way, I should probably just flip a coin and start learning!

Osiris 13y ago
Ember includes a full test suite which is run on each pull request, so TDD is not unique to Angular. Personally, I found Angular's concepts a bit foreign and hard to grasp while Ember was much more straight-forward, but that's just a personal opinion.
- manojlds 13y ago
  How is the framework having unit tests ( and please, don't say TDD, when you mean unit tests) say anything about how testable code written using the framework is?
j_s 13y ago
> I'm very glad to see that this answer hasn't been closed as not constructive! Don't jinx it!
benatkin 13y ago
I was disappointed that it hadn't been closed. The first answer is a backhanded dig at non-angular developers saying that angular is about architecture and implying that the others aren't. I like angular but "angular architect" rolls off the tongue too easily.
- jamesaguilar 13y ago
  You're disappointed that a really informative answer has not been closed because of some subtext you've read into it that may or may not actually be there? That doesn't seem like a very productive attitude to me.
  - benatkin 13y ago
    Another google employee. You're just contributing to the mutual admiration society that's all over that answer and its comments.
    - jamesaguilar 13y ago
      The answer was made by a Google employee? Never knew.
      - benatkin 13y ago
        Actually, no, the person who wrote the so-called "answer" which is more like an essay (and therefore not a proper Stack Overflow response) isn't a google employee. I didn't mean to imply that.
        jamesaguilar 13y ago
        OK, then I'm unclear on why you brought up my employer. Did it have something to do with my support of the answer in your mind? Like is Angular a Google project? Or was it just some random thing you could attack?
        benatkin 13y ago
        That's funny. You rushed to Angular's defense without mentioning your financial connection and now you're annoyed that somebody else mentioned it.
        jamesaguilar 13y ago
        Ah, that is your way of answering, "Yes, Angular is a Google project." I was not aware of that. I am not annoyed, just confused.

Osiris 13y ago

Ember includes a full test suite which is run on each pull request, so TDD is not unique to Angular. Personally, I found Angular's concepts a bit foreign and hard to grasp while Ember was much more straight-forward, but that's just a personal opinion.

manojlds 13y ago
How is the framework having unit tests ( and please, don't say TDD, when you mean unit tests) say anything about how testable code written using the framework is?

j_s 13y ago

> I'm very glad to see that this answer hasn't been closed as not constructive! Don't jinx it!

benatkin 13y ago

I was disappointed that it hadn't been closed. The first answer is a backhanded dig at non-angular developers saying that angular is about architecture and implying that the others aren't. I like angular but "angular architect" rolls off the tongue too easily.

jamesaguilar 13y ago
You're disappointed that a really informative answer has not been closed because of some subtext you've read into it that may or may not actually be there? That doesn't seem like a very productive attitude to me.
- benatkin 13y ago
  Another google employee. You're just contributing to the mutual admiration society that's all over that answer and its comments.
  - jamesaguilar 13y ago
    The answer was made by a Google employee? Never knew.
    - benatkin 13y ago
      Actually, no, the person who wrote the so-called "answer" which is more like an essay (and therefore not a proper Stack Overflow response) isn't a google employee. I didn't mean to imply that.
      - jamesaguilar 13y ago
        OK, then I'm unclear on why you brought up my employer. Did it have something to do with my support of the answer in your mind? Like is Angular a Google project? Or was it just some random thing you could attack?
        benatkin 13y ago
        That's funny. You rushed to Angular's defense without mentioning your financial connection and now you're annoyed that somebody else mentioned it.
        jamesaguilar 13y ago
        Ah, that is your way of answering, "Yes, Angular is a Google project." I was not aware of that. I am not annoyed, just confused.