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> Good nutrition, stimulation, and education are all important during development. But not so important that they would have a 40 point IQ difference. If it is

> Good nutrition, stimulation, and education are all important during development. But not so important that they would have a 40 point IQ difference. If it is, show me the studies confirming that.

Steko 13y ago
Did you just pull "40 points" out of thin air because there are plenty of studies showing economic causes for smaller differences?
mkessy 13y ago
I'm sorry, but you need to do the basic research yourself. It has been consistently shown in the science. Here: http://www.nber.org/papers/w14599 http://www.nber.org/papers/w14599 Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_poverty#Developed_countries http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_poverty#Developed_countri... Here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/jun/13/poverty-impact-children-study http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/jun/13/poverty-impact... I could go on for some time...
nullc 13y ago
If your nutrition is poor enough you will be dead. It is well established that dead people necessarily have low IQs. Q.E.D.
btilly 13y ago
Where do you pull "40 point IQ difference" from? The gap between these impoverished kids and normal is only 20 points. And that is easily explainable with nutrition, stimulation, and education. To start look at http://www.thewayforwardproject.org/file_uploads/Gen10%20IQ%20of%20children%20growing%20up%20in%20children's%20homes.pdf http://www.thewayforwardproject.org/file_uploads/Gen10%20IQ%... for a meta analysis of thousands of studies finding that the IQ difference between growing up in an orphanage and foster care averaging 20 points. Independently, the estimated difference between average IQ in the mid-30s and today is 20 points. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect for verification. In that time period the main things that have changed are nutrition, stimulation and education. So there you have it. Two unrelated analyses of completely different things finding that nutrition, stimulation and education can explain 20 point IQ differences between otherwise similar populations.

> Good nutrition, stimulation, and education are all important during development. But not so important that they would have a 40 point IQ difference. If it is, show me the studies confirming that.

Steko 13y ago

Did you just pull "40 points" out of thin air because there are plenty of studies showing economic causes for smaller differences?

mkessy 13y ago

I'm sorry, but you need to do the basic research yourself. It has been consistently shown in the science. Here: http://www.nber.org/papers/w14599 http://www.nber.org/papers/w14599 Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_poverty#Developed_countries http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_poverty#Developed_countri... Here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/jun/13/poverty-impact-children-study http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/jun/13/poverty-impact... I could go on for some time...

nullc 13y ago

If your nutrition is poor enough you will be dead. It is well established that dead people necessarily have low IQs. Q.E.D.

btilly 13y ago

Where do you pull "40 point IQ difference" from? The gap between these impoverished kids and normal is only 20 points. And that is easily explainable with nutrition, stimulation, and education. To start look at http://www.thewayforwardproject.org/file_uploads/Gen10%20IQ%20of%20children%20growing%20up%20in%20children's%20homes.pdf http://www.thewayforwardproject.org/file_uploads/Gen10%20IQ%... for a meta analysis of thousands of studies finding that the IQ difference between growing up in an orphanage and foster care averaging 20 points. Independently, the estimated difference between average IQ in the mid-30s and today is 20 points. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect for verification. In that time period the main things that have changed are nutrition, stimulation and education. So there you have it. Two unrelated analyses of completely different things finding that nutrition, stimulation and education can explain 20 point IQ differences between otherwise similar populations.