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7 points by AshMokhberi 13y ago

tehwebguy 13y ago
What?
- AshMokhberi 13y ago
  We are trying to get feedback on our app/landing page. So instead of hyping it up, we decided to go the opposite route and see the response we get when we openly declare that it's not great right now.
krapp 13y ago
I don't understand what this is or what it does. Why would I add it?
- AshMokhberi 13y ago
  Thanks, we where wondering whether the imagery and the tag line together worked. In a nutshell it's a chrome extension that adds a sidebar onto every page and let's you drag any useful content from web pages and organise them into visual stacks. Would love to hear if you have any thoughts on a better way to convey this.
  - krapp 13y ago
    The image does convey the concept, but adding a short description of it would definitely help. For me personally, this: it's a chrome extension that adds a sidebar onto every page and let's you drag any useful content from web pages and organize them into visual stacks ... communicated better than the image did. It is saving links? Shortcuts? Copies of the content? Does it automatically update or synchronize with the remote content? Does this mean you'll be keeping a database of whatever I put into the stack? Does it save or track passwords? What about images, and form field text, and history? If I login to Facebook, is your app going to attempt to correlate my social media account and harvest my data? Given how intrusive some apps can be, I just personally have come to mistrust minimalist approaches like this, though I understand it's something of a standard practice. It may be an unfair bias but there you are. I'm not accusing you of anything, and it seems like a neat app, but it's not hard to feel like a sheep being led up a chute lately.
    - aledalgrande 13y ago
      Hi, I'm the other founder! Well of course we're going to track your Facebook account! And then we'll send a drone to thank you for subscribing. :-) Seriously, that is good feedback and appreciate the privacy concerns, I am really sensible to that too. We're storing a graph database of associations, so to be able to suggest you more interesting things to see in the future. That said, nothing in the business logic is tied to users/accounts, it's more like "a stack is related to a stack, because of their item relationships". Also, until we add collaborative stacks, it's all inherently private by default. Not going to track anything in forms or the like, just the stuff you decide to drag and drop.
      - krapp 13y ago
        Well, congratulations on shipping. We're storing a graph database of associations, so to be able to suggest you more interesting things to see in the future. Can I opt out of that if I want? If I just want to store things and not get any suggestions or prompts or anything?
        AshMokhberi 13y ago
        We are no way near the stage of implementing that yet, right now we are just trying to find out if people find it useful. In terms of the future we are looking to be able to provide you with hints of useful content on a per stack basis, based on other users who have created stacks similar to yours. Kind of like an extension of search powered by people. We don't envisage this being a social feature as in people will not be able to see your stacks and content we recommend will not display any information relating to the users who added it. We are purely recommending the content to help people. But this is all theoretical, right now it's not something we are working on and we might end up going in a different direction. Either way we fully intend to inform our users of the changes we make as we make them.
        aledalgrande 13y ago
        Hey Krapp, suggestions might be opt-out, or not there at all. The graph is there, but we might go down different avenues. We're still in a very early stage and have a few possibilities, so if you use it right now, it will just be your own content. Thank you for your reaction and feel free to drop an email to ale@getlatis.com with any further concern you might have (or discuss it here, if you prefer).
XiZhao 13y ago
This is great - I wish that scrolling back wouldn't cause the menu to pop up though because I scroll sideways to go back a page and this causes an extra step. It would also be great if all of your images were synced to the latis cloud, so you can straight D&D a url into a textbox by dragging an item from the stack.
- AshMokhberi 13y ago
  Thanks for your feedback it's awesome that you tried it. Yes the swipe to open seemed like a nice feature, and I don't personally use swipe to navigate and wondered how many people did and would they find it annoying. In response to the dragging off. Everything is stored in Latis and we are going to enable dragging off stacks back on to page soon :) I would love to hear your thoughts after you have used it a bit more or anything about the landing page content ? Feel free to mail ash [ at ] getlatis.com if you want to give us more feedback in private or come across any issues in future.
jsandor 13y ago
I see a lot of potential for this. Who did you have in mind as the initial user when you came up with it?
- aledalgrande 13y ago
  At the start, tech enthusiasts. We think this kind of people share the same pain with us: we love technology, but hate limited implementations. We're trying to build something that removes friction from the everyday use of Internet, which is permeating our lives nowadays. That said, we're testing to find out if we're right or not on the user profile.
joshmn 13y ago
Was doing something <quite> similar with a bookmarklet a while ago. Very cool. Installed.
- aledalgrande 13y ago
  Curious to know how you tackled it ;-)
- AshMokhberi 13y ago
  Thanks that's awesome. Is what you where working on still live ? I would love to see how you tackled the problem. Please feel free to email me with any further feedback you have while using it. ash [ at ] getlatis . com

7 points by AshMokhberi 13y ago

tehwebguy 13y ago

What?

AshMokhberi 13y ago
We are trying to get feedback on our app/landing page. So instead of hyping it up, we decided to go the opposite route and see the response we get when we openly declare that it's not great right now.

krapp 13y ago

I don't understand what this is or what it does. Why would I add it?

AshMokhberi 13y ago
Thanks, we where wondering whether the imagery and the tag line together worked. In a nutshell it's a chrome extension that adds a sidebar onto every page and let's you drag any useful content from web pages and organise them into visual stacks. Would love to hear if you have any thoughts on a better way to convey this.
- krapp 13y ago
  The image does convey the concept, but adding a short description of it would definitely help. For me personally, this: it's a chrome extension that adds a sidebar onto every page and let's you drag any useful content from web pages and organize them into visual stacks ... communicated better than the image did. It is saving links? Shortcuts? Copies of the content? Does it automatically update or synchronize with the remote content? Does this mean you'll be keeping a database of whatever I put into the stack? Does it save or track passwords? What about images, and form field text, and history? If I login to Facebook, is your app going to attempt to correlate my social media account and harvest my data? Given how intrusive some apps can be, I just personally have come to mistrust minimalist approaches like this, though I understand it's something of a standard practice. It may be an unfair bias but there you are. I'm not accusing you of anything, and it seems like a neat app, but it's not hard to feel like a sheep being led up a chute lately.
  - aledalgrande 13y ago
    Hi, I'm the other founder! Well of course we're going to track your Facebook account! And then we'll send a drone to thank you for subscribing. :-) Seriously, that is good feedback and appreciate the privacy concerns, I am really sensible to that too. We're storing a graph database of associations, so to be able to suggest you more interesting things to see in the future. That said, nothing in the business logic is tied to users/accounts, it's more like "a stack is related to a stack, because of their item relationships". Also, until we add collaborative stacks, it's all inherently private by default. Not going to track anything in forms or the like, just the stuff you decide to drag and drop.
    - krapp 13y ago
      Well, congratulations on shipping. We're storing a graph database of associations, so to be able to suggest you more interesting things to see in the future. Can I opt out of that if I want? If I just want to store things and not get any suggestions or prompts or anything?
      - AshMokhberi 13y ago
        We are no way near the stage of implementing that yet, right now we are just trying to find out if people find it useful. In terms of the future we are looking to be able to provide you with hints of useful content on a per stack basis, based on other users who have created stacks similar to yours. Kind of like an extension of search powered by people. We don't envisage this being a social feature as in people will not be able to see your stacks and content we recommend will not display any information relating to the users who added it. We are purely recommending the content to help people. But this is all theoretical, right now it's not something we are working on and we might end up going in a different direction. Either way we fully intend to inform our users of the changes we make as we make them.
      - aledalgrande 13y ago
        Hey Krapp, suggestions might be opt-out, or not there at all. The graph is there, but we might go down different avenues. We're still in a very early stage and have a few possibilities, so if you use it right now, it will just be your own content. Thank you for your reaction and feel free to drop an email to ale@getlatis.com with any further concern you might have (or discuss it here, if you prefer).

XiZhao 13y ago

This is great - I wish that scrolling back wouldn't cause the menu to pop up though because I scroll sideways to go back a page and this causes an extra step. It would also be great if all of your images were synced to the latis cloud, so you can straight D&D a url into a textbox by dragging an item from the stack.

AshMokhberi 13y ago
Thanks for your feedback it's awesome that you tried it. Yes the swipe to open seemed like a nice feature, and I don't personally use swipe to navigate and wondered how many people did and would they find it annoying. In response to the dragging off. Everything is stored in Latis and we are going to enable dragging off stacks back on to page soon :) I would love to hear your thoughts after you have used it a bit more or anything about the landing page content ? Feel free to mail ash [ at ] getlatis.com if you want to give us more feedback in private or come across any issues in future.

jsandor 13y ago

I see a lot of potential for this. Who did you have in mind as the initial user when you came up with it?

aledalgrande 13y ago
At the start, tech enthusiasts. We think this kind of people share the same pain with us: we love technology, but hate limited implementations. We're trying to build something that removes friction from the everyday use of Internet, which is permeating our lives nowadays. That said, we're testing to find out if we're right or not on the user profile.

joshmn 13y ago

Was doing something <quite> similar with a bookmarklet a while ago. Very cool. Installed.

aledalgrande 13y ago
Curious to know how you tackled it ;-)
AshMokhberi 13y ago
Thanks that's awesome. Is what you where working on still live ? I would love to see how you tackled the problem. Please feel free to email me with any further feedback you have while using it. ash [ at ] getlatis . com