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I said majority of people, not Americans. My statement stands correct. Look at what other countries have done to recently stem gay culture: Russia recently pass
by eeky 13y ago
I said majority of people, not Americans. My statement stands correct. Look at what other countries have done to recently stem gay culture: Russia recently passed a unanimous (436-0) vote which banned gay propaganda[1]. Homosexuals acceptance is pushed hard in the western media, but don't let that skew your worldview. Reactionary responses are not uncommon.
[1] http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/11/russia-law-banning-gay-propaganda http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/11/russia-law-banni...
- autodidakto 13y agoWhen in a hole, stop digging.
- jackmaney 13y agoSo, how are things waaaay over there on the wrong side of history?
- eeky 13y agoYou keep arguing with logical fallacies, but I'll respond anyway. Russia is doing quite well and just became the 5th largest economy[1]. They also have a news station (Russia Today) which reports on real issues - unlike western "mainstream" media. You act as if Russia is some backwater slump and not a growing modern nation. Meanwhile the western world is teetering into bankruptcy. You won't know which side of history is right until it actually becomes history. [1] http://rt.com/business/russia-gdp-5th-largest-158/ http://rt.com/business/russia-gdp-5th-largest-158/
- corin_ 13y agoDo you think stance on gay rights is the cause of economic problems or Russia's current situation? It's possible that some day the entire world will despise homosexuality, or that the entire world will be fine with it. Both of those scenarios could happen regardless of whether countries currently on one side or the other end up as the world powers. Personally I believe that gay rights will keep on improving, not get worse, and therefore you are on the wrong side of history. But I could be wrong about that, so it's fine if you disagree with my prediction. Just, disagree with it using relevant logic, not unrelated situations.
- reyan 13y agoIt's interesting that you talk about others' logical fallacies, yet you started the thread with a fallacy (appeal to majority).
- eeky 13y agoI didn't use my appeal to the majority as a support to my argument. My argument was simply not to conflate the issues. If I would have said "The majority of people are opposed to gay marriage, therefore it should be banned", then that would have been a fallacy.
- robotresearcher 13y agoAmerica grew very well economically while - and partly due to - using African slaves. The European empires dominated the planet economically while believing they had a divine mandate to exploit the savages. Wealth generation has nothing to do with the goodness of a behaviour or attitude.
- notahacker 13y agoIf you remember to control for oil wealth when graphing "acceptance of homosexuality" against per capita GDP you'll probably be surprised by how well correlated they are...
- jackmaney 13y agoYes, because I was asking only about economic standing, of course...
- beagle12 13y agoI have registered an account on HN simply to respond to you. You are a despicable piece of worthless trash. Thank you.
- jackmaney 13y ago[golf clap]
- darth_aardvark 13y agoAs much as I agree with this sentiment, I think it's better to downvote him to invisibility and not respond to his comments.
- eeky 13y agoThese are the kinds of attacks that people who stand for traditional marriage have to face. A bigoted army of people who can't muster a better argument than vulgar name calling. The irony is that they claim to stand against intolerance...
- robotresearcher 13y agoBy using euphemisms like "stand for traditional marriage" you automatically lose the argument. You do not have to defend straight marriage. No one is against it. There's nothing to stand for. In fact you are against the other things. Your position is one of sanction and oppression, not support.
- eeky 13y agoIt's changing the definition of the word, so yes there is something to stand for. If you don't believe marriage needs defending, look at the rates of marriage. Now the meaning of marriage has been diluted so much, no one wants to get married anymore - there's no point except to possibly get benefits from the state. I could have just as easily said people who use the term "homophobic" automatically lose the argument, as there's no fear involved. This is a battle of semantics - and if we want a quality debate then we need to keep definitions consistent.
- drrotmos 13y agoYes, you're in great company there, with well-respected allies like Iran, Uganda and Afghanistan. Congratulations.