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of course we do

by celwell 13y ago

of course we do

weinzierl 13y ago
I'm sorry, I don't believe that. I mean, all this Internet and telecommunication surveillance is one thing - and a bad thing for sure, but spying drones is in another ballpark. I'll just leave this here from Orwell's 1984: In the far distance a helicopter skimmed down between the roofs, hovered for an instant like a bluebottle, and darted away again with a curving flight. It was the police patrol, snooping in people's windows.
- theOrdinary 13y ago
  I would like to congratulate you on how naive you are.
- LoganCale 13y ago
  Border Patrol has 10 Predators in operation along the U.S. border. They're supposed to only be used within 30 miles of the border, but they loan them out to other agencies for more internal purposes all the time, including detecting fishing violations. > According to the documents, CBP already appears to be flying drones well within the Southern and Northern US borders, and for a wide variety of non-border patrol reasons. What’s more — the agency is planning to increase its Predator drone fleet to 24 and its drone surveillance to 24 hours per day / 7 days per week by 2016. There appear to be no privacy controls for citizens currently, but they may add them… eventually. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130705/17154023725/border-patrol-drone-fleet-straying-far-from-borders-when-not-being-loaned-out-to-whatever-agency-comes-asking.shtml https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130705/17154023725/borde... https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/07/customs-border-protection-significantly-increases-drone-surveillance-other https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/07/customs-border-protect...
celwell 13y ago
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/19/us-usa-security-drones-idUSBRE95I1NW20130619 http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/19/us-usa-security-dr...
- weinzierl 13y ago
  I stand corrected, this is shocking.
  - LoganCale 13y ago
    The Attorney General also stated that drone strikes against Americans within U.S. borders would be legal and that while they haven't yet been done they would consider them if the circumstances were right. http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/05/politics/obama-drones-cia http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/05/politics/obama-drones-cia

of course we do

by celwell 13y ago

of course we do

I'm sorry, I don't believe that. I mean, all this Internet and telecommunication surveillance is one thing - and a bad thing for sure, but spying drones is in another ballpark. I'll just leave this here from Orwell's 1984: In the far distance a helicopter skimmed down between the roofs, hovered for an instant like a bluebottle, and darted away again with a curving flight. It was the police patrol, snooping in people's windows.

theOrdinary 13y ago
I would like to congratulate you on how naive you are.
LoganCale 13y ago
Border Patrol has 10 Predators in operation along the U.S. border. They're supposed to only be used within 30 miles of the border, but they loan them out to other agencies for more internal purposes all the time, including detecting fishing violations. > According to the documents, CBP already appears to be flying drones well within the Southern and Northern US borders, and for a wide variety of non-border patrol reasons. What’s more — the agency is planning to increase its Predator drone fleet to 24 and its drone surveillance to 24 hours per day / 7 days per week by 2016. There appear to be no privacy controls for citizens currently, but they may add them… eventually. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130705/17154023725/border-patrol-drone-fleet-straying-far-from-borders-when-not-being-loaned-out-to-whatever-agency-comes-asking.shtml https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130705/17154023725/borde... https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/07/customs-border-protection-significantly-increases-drone-surveillance-other https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/07/customs-border-protect...

celwell 13y ago

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/19/us-usa-security-drones-idUSBRE95I1NW20130619 http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/19/us-usa-security-dr...

weinzierl 13y ago
I stand corrected, this is shocking.
- LoganCale 13y ago
  The Attorney General also stated that drone strikes against Americans within U.S. borders would be legal and that while they haven't yet been done they would consider them if the circumstances were right. http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/05/politics/obama-drones-cia http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/05/politics/obama-drones-cia