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Snowden about to step forward, live.

89 points by Shalle 13y ago

paddy_m 13y ago
Whistle Blower Edward Snowden has convened a meeting with representatives of several human rights organsiationer. The meeting is expected to take place today at Sheremetyevo Airport in Moscow. - I can confirm that the meeting will take place at 16:00 local time at the airport. We will not increase security at the airport ahead of the meeting, says Roman Genis head of the press office at Sheremetyevo Airport. Already around 13:00 Swedish time flocked to reporters at the airport to talk to the representatives invited by Snowden. For the first time since Snowden's revelations reached the press caught him now in view of Human Rights Watch's photographer. To the west the picture is Sarah Harrison from WikiLeaks. Great interest A number of journalists have gathered at the airport while waiting for the whistle-blower's performance. The meeting, taking place right now behind closed doors. - Snowden's revelations have shown the problem. He has not identified any people but only highlights the major problems, said Sergei Nikitin, head of Amnesty International Russian to AP from the airport. Snowden will have sent invitations to representatives of Amnesty International in Russia, Transparency International, Human Rights Watch and the UN in Russia. Although Russian parliamentarians and lawyers have accepted Snowden's invitation and is now at the airport in Moscow. "Campaign Against Me" In inbjudningsbreven to Edward Snowden according to the Guardian have written that the United States is leading a campaign against him, trying to block his right to seek and obtain asylum in other countries. Snowden thank the letter also those who have offered to help him. The former CIA employee Edward Snowden fled the United States when he revealed the extent of its supervision. He has lived on the transit portion of the airport in Moscow since June 23. Snowden has applied for asylum in more than 20 countries. Several South American countries have offered him protection, but it has proved problematic to leave the airport. Edward Snowden has been stripped of his U.S. passport and without it he can not buy a new ticket. Last week also forced the Bolivian president Evo Morales stopover in Austria when there was suspicion that Snowden was aboard his aircraft.
- _delirium 13y ago
  > In inbjudningsbreven to Edward Snowden according to the Guardian have written that the United States is leading a campaign against him, trying to block his right to seek and obtain asylum in other countries. Improved: According to the Guardian, Snowden wrote in his invitation letter to the organizations that the United States is leading a campaign against him, trying to block his right to seek and obtain asylum in other countries.
- jbrooksuk 13y ago
  Cheers for the translation, saves me from having to use my rough knowledge of Swedish. Couple of grammatical errors, but it makes sense.
  - rfnslyr 13y ago
    One of the benefits of being a freelancer is today, I learn Swedish until I can understand this article!
quchen 13y ago
For the record, local time in Moscow is UTC+4; at the time of writing this comment, that is about 18 o'clock.
- sk00byd00 13y ago
  Isn't the convention to only use the phrase o'clock when using a 12 hour notation?
  - tzs 13y ago
    As far as I've been able to determine, yes.
  - freehunter 13y ago
    With 24 hour time, the proper way to say it would be 18 hundred.
rahoulb 13y ago
The Guardian is (of course) carrying it as well: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/12/edward-snowden-to-meet-amnesty-and-human-rights-watch-at-moscow-airport-live-coverag http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/12/edward-snowden-t...
abarakadabara 13y ago
What does this have to do with hacking/technology?
- Buzaga 13y ago
  everything?
- Phlarp 13y ago
  I'm not really sure, maybe we should ask duckduckgo if anything Snowden has released affected them?
- rfnslyr 13y ago
  The media surrounding the U.S. government spying on its citizens illegally supersedes any intangible enforcement by means of loosely written guidelines by HN.
- vyrotek 13y ago
  http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html "If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity."
- samstave 13y ago
  I think your HN card must now be turned in. If you don't think that Snowden has anything to do with technology -- then maybe you don't even know what the definition of technology is. This has everything to do with technology.
pvnick 13y ago
Russian Human Rights Commissioner Vladimir Lukin: "He doesn't look very well fed, a skinny guy. But he has a great haircut"
- tlrobinson 13y ago
  Indeed: https://twitter.com/KooyJan/status/355693261291151360/photo/1 https://twitter.com/KooyJan/status/355693261291151360/photo/...
antocv 13y ago
He is a very well trained CIA man - the picture released is him with two woman at his side. Well played. Nice to see.
- jasonkolb 13y ago
  What do two women have to do with anything? Your comment confused me...
  - tonyarkles 13y ago
    The whole James-Bond-womanizer spy thing :)
    - antocv 13y ago
      Meh, I tried to explain in another comment thats not what I thought the first I saw the image, its the caring and concerned attitude the women show, as well as not being part of a pissing-contest.
      - tonyarkles 13y ago
        Very cool! It probably says more about me than it says about you that that's where I immediately went to interpret your comment.
  - mahmud 13y ago
    "because these women, although professional lawyers and activists on one side of a very important global case, are nevertheless females, and as such assets to be collected and coveted by the bad-boy James Bond Mr Spy-man" .. or some such. Asinine, but not an unusual way of thinking among some.
    - antocv 13y ago
      No, thats not what I had in mind, thats a little bit misogynist, thats precisely what he does not show in the picture - pissing contest and power games, it looks like concerned cooperation devoid of pissing contests and sex. The importance of the woman is to show that Snowden is not alone, he has people that care and are concerned about him. No stuff like Ana Chapman style.
djweber 13y ago
I appreciate Edward Snowden for having the courage to do what he did and what he did, but I feel like there is a disproportionate amount of coverage about him versus what he blew the whistle on.

89 points by Shalle 13y ago

Whistle Blower Edward Snowden has convened a meeting with representatives of several human rights organsiationer. The meeting is expected to take place today at Sheremetyevo Airport in Moscow. - I can confirm that the meeting will take place at 16:00 local time at the airport. We will not increase security at the airport ahead of the meeting, says Roman Genis head of the press office at Sheremetyevo Airport. Already around 13:00 Swedish time flocked to reporters at the airport to talk to the representatives invited by Snowden. For the first time since Snowden's revelations reached the press caught him now in view of Human Rights Watch's photographer. To the west the picture is Sarah Harrison from WikiLeaks. Great interest A number of journalists have gathered at the airport while waiting for the whistle-blower's performance. The meeting, taking place right now behind closed doors. - Snowden's revelations have shown the problem. He has not identified any people but only highlights the major problems, said Sergei Nikitin, head of Amnesty International Russian to AP from the airport. Snowden will have sent invitations to representatives of Amnesty International in Russia, Transparency International, Human Rights Watch and the UN in Russia. Although Russian parliamentarians and lawyers have accepted Snowden's invitation and is now at the airport in Moscow. "Campaign Against Me" In inbjudningsbreven to Edward Snowden according to the Guardian have written that the United States is leading a campaign against him, trying to block his right to seek and obtain asylum in other countries. Snowden thank the letter also those who have offered to help him. The former CIA employee Edward Snowden fled the United States when he revealed the extent of its supervision. He has lived on the transit portion of the airport in Moscow since June 23. Snowden has applied for asylum in more than 20 countries. Several South American countries have offered him protection, but it has proved problematic to leave the airport. Edward Snowden has been stripped of his U.S. passport and without it he can not buy a new ticket. Last week also forced the Bolivian president Evo Morales stopover in Austria when there was suspicion that Snowden was aboard his aircraft.

_delirium 13y ago
> In inbjudningsbreven to Edward Snowden according to the Guardian have written that the United States is leading a campaign against him, trying to block his right to seek and obtain asylum in other countries. Improved: According to the Guardian, Snowden wrote in his invitation letter to the organizations that the United States is leading a campaign against him, trying to block his right to seek and obtain asylum in other countries.
jbrooksuk 13y ago
Cheers for the translation, saves me from having to use my rough knowledge of Swedish. Couple of grammatical errors, but it makes sense.
- rfnslyr 13y ago
  One of the benefits of being a freelancer is today, I learn Swedish until I can understand this article!

quchen 13y ago

For the record, local time in Moscow is UTC+4; at the time of writing this comment, that is about 18 o'clock.

sk00byd00 13y ago
Isn't the convention to only use the phrase o'clock when using a 12 hour notation?
- tzs 13y ago
  As far as I've been able to determine, yes.
- freehunter 13y ago
  With 24 hour time, the proper way to say it would be 18 hundred.

rahoulb 13y ago

The Guardian is (of course) carrying it as well: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/12/edward-snowden-to-meet-amnesty-and-human-rights-watch-at-moscow-airport-live-coverag http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/12/edward-snowden-t...

abarakadabara 13y ago

What does this have to do with hacking/technology?

Buzaga 13y ago
everything?
Phlarp 13y ago
I'm not really sure, maybe we should ask duckduckgo if anything Snowden has released affected them?
rfnslyr 13y ago
The media surrounding the U.S. government spying on its citizens illegally supersedes any intangible enforcement by means of loosely written guidelines by HN.
vyrotek 13y ago
http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html "If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity."
samstave 13y ago
I think your HN card must now be turned in. If you don't think that Snowden has anything to do with technology -- then maybe you don't even know what the definition of technology is. This has everything to do with technology.

pvnick 13y ago

Russian Human Rights Commissioner Vladimir Lukin: "He doesn't look very well fed, a skinny guy. But he has a great haircut"

tlrobinson 13y ago
Indeed: https://twitter.com/KooyJan/status/355693261291151360/photo/1 https://twitter.com/KooyJan/status/355693261291151360/photo/...

antocv 13y ago

He is a very well trained CIA man - the picture released is him with two woman at his side. Well played. Nice to see.

jasonkolb 13y ago
What do two women have to do with anything? Your comment confused me...
- tonyarkles 13y ago
  The whole James-Bond-womanizer spy thing :)
  - antocv 13y ago
    Meh, I tried to explain in another comment thats not what I thought the first I saw the image, its the caring and concerned attitude the women show, as well as not being part of a pissing-contest.
    - tonyarkles 13y ago
      Very cool! It probably says more about me than it says about you that that's where I immediately went to interpret your comment.
- mahmud 13y ago
  "because these women, although professional lawyers and activists on one side of a very important global case, are nevertheless females, and as such assets to be collected and coveted by the bad-boy James Bond Mr Spy-man" .. or some such. Asinine, but not an unusual way of thinking among some.
  - antocv 13y ago
    No, thats not what I had in mind, thats a little bit misogynist, thats precisely what he does not show in the picture - pissing contest and power games, it looks like concerned cooperation devoid of pissing contests and sex. The importance of the woman is to show that Snowden is not alone, he has people that care and are concerned about him. No stuff like Ana Chapman style.

djweber 13y ago

I appreciate Edward Snowden for having the courage to do what he did and what he did, but I feel like there is a disproportionate amount of coverage about him versus what he blew the whistle on.