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Old guy tells Marissa she is attractive, feminist writes article about sexism. Nothing to see here, move on.

by Uperte 13y ago

PavlovsCat 13y ago
Sexism is waved away with euphemisms, which is exciting and stimulating. Also, if you're not a feminist by 2013, what are you? This stuff was a no-brainer the second it was came up with.
- Crake 13y ago
  "Also, if you're not a feminist by 2013, what are you?" I'm an egalitarian, because I believe in equal rights for all people, not just one biological sex. Unless you're a cis female, feminism is very hostile to you. Since I am GLBT, I find egalitarianism much more appealing for this reason as well.
  - PavlovsCat 13y ago
    I'm an egalitarian This makes you, among other things, a feminist. It also makes you, for example, an opponent of the case system in India, regardless some people deeply involved in that issue committing bad acts under its cloak (not saying there are those people, I have no idea, that's not the point). Unless you're a cis female, feminism is very hostile to you. I'll be the judge of that.
    - Crake 13y ago
      This makes you, among other things, a feminist. 1. You do not get to decide for me who and what I am or what I identify as. What the hell makes you think that you have the right and the might to tell me who I'm supposed to be? You can say that--according to your definition of it--Christianity is about being kind to others. Ok. Whatever. That doesn't make me a Christian. And you definitely don't get the right to call me one. (I'm an atheist.) 2. It's funny you mention India. Feminists lobbied heavily (and successfully) for only one biological sex to be legally able to be booked for rape. Spoilers: it wasn't women. I'll be the judge of that. Wow, ego. Do you also tell trans people to go kill themselves?
- alexjeffrey 13y ago
  you may be confusing feminism with the equal rights for women movement. While there's a large crossover and the former certainly tries to pretend to be the latter, there's also an element of male-targeted sexism within the feminist community that would always prevent me from identifying with them. I'm not saying at all that feminism = sexism, but I wouldn't want to back a community that doesn't seem to address these issues.
  - shanelja 13y ago
    I couldn't agree more. We should all be egalitarian: characterized by belief in equal political, economic, social, and civil rights for all people, rather than feminist: defending equal political, economic, and social rights for women.
    - PavlovsCat 13y ago
      The point is they so vastly don't have it, and it's so deeply ingrained, and Stockholm Syndrome runs so deep, that solidarity and kicking continued ass is really called for here. There is a reason John Lennon wrote a song called "woman is the nigger of the world". I haven't met a sane smart man who felt threatened by feminism. Not one. Scoffing at the excesses, sure. But not calling it out like some warning sign. Do you accuse a group working for the ethical treatment of prisoners of not wanting everyone to be treated ethically? No. You see, that's how much I pay attention.
      - johngalt 13y ago
        "I haven't met a sane smart man who felt threatened by feminism." Talk to any male who has dealt with a female stalker. All the legal 'protections' put in place and advocated by feminist organizations don't apply to men. If anything they will be the tools used to further abuse. Sure no one is threatened by the dictionary definition. It's the polices advocated by feminist organizations.
      - derpanerb 13y ago
        No sane man is threatened by feminism? So when feminists pass bills that implement mandatory arrest policies for the male in any domestic violence calls.... a man would have to be insane to be threatened by that? Or when a feminist twists the definition of rape so that over 1 million male victims of rape are ignored every single year (which then allows them to come to some nice fancy conclusiosn like "95% of all rape victims are female")... I'm insane for being threatened by that too? And then we have NoW, the biggest feminist organization in the entire world... I must clearly be insane to be opposed to the fact that they constantly rally against any group or bill that tried to remove the bias from custody trials (in which mothers get custody 90+% of the time). And this is only scratching the surface... I suggest you stop being so ignorant of the many legitimate reasons why people have a problem with feminism.
- johngalt 13y ago
  Additionally, if you're anti-slavery you're by definition a Republican. If you don't identify as republican you're automatically pro-slavery. It's 2013, if you're not a republican by now what are you?
billb2112 13y ago
I disagree. There was another picture of Marissa Mayer to see.

Old guy tells Marissa she is attractive, feminist writes article about sexism. Nothing to see here, move on.

by Uperte 13y ago

Old guy tells Marissa she is attractive, feminist writes article about sexism. Nothing to see here, move on.

Sexism is waved away with euphemisms, which is exciting and stimulating. Also, if you're not a feminist by 2013, what are you? This stuff was a no-brainer the second it was came up with.

Crake 13y ago
"Also, if you're not a feminist by 2013, what are you?" I'm an egalitarian, because I believe in equal rights for all people, not just one biological sex. Unless you're a cis female, feminism is very hostile to you. Since I am GLBT, I find egalitarianism much more appealing for this reason as well.
- PavlovsCat 13y ago
  I'm an egalitarian This makes you, among other things, a feminist. It also makes you, for example, an opponent of the case system in India, regardless some people deeply involved in that issue committing bad acts under its cloak (not saying there are those people, I have no idea, that's not the point). Unless you're a cis female, feminism is very hostile to you. I'll be the judge of that.
  - Crake 13y ago
    This makes you, among other things, a feminist. 1. You do not get to decide for me who and what I am or what I identify as. What the hell makes you think that you have the right and the might to tell me who I'm supposed to be? You can say that--according to your definition of it--Christianity is about being kind to others. Ok. Whatever. That doesn't make me a Christian. And you definitely don't get the right to call me one. (I'm an atheist.) 2. It's funny you mention India. Feminists lobbied heavily (and successfully) for only one biological sex to be legally able to be booked for rape. Spoilers: it wasn't women. I'll be the judge of that. Wow, ego. Do you also tell trans people to go kill themselves?
alexjeffrey 13y ago
you may be confusing feminism with the equal rights for women movement. While there's a large crossover and the former certainly tries to pretend to be the latter, there's also an element of male-targeted sexism within the feminist community that would always prevent me from identifying with them. I'm not saying at all that feminism = sexism, but I wouldn't want to back a community that doesn't seem to address these issues.
- shanelja 13y ago
  I couldn't agree more. We should all be egalitarian: characterized by belief in equal political, economic, social, and civil rights for all people, rather than feminist: defending equal political, economic, and social rights for women.
  - PavlovsCat 13y ago
    The point is they so vastly don't have it, and it's so deeply ingrained, and Stockholm Syndrome runs so deep, that solidarity and kicking continued ass is really called for here. There is a reason John Lennon wrote a song called "woman is the nigger of the world". I haven't met a sane smart man who felt threatened by feminism. Not one. Scoffing at the excesses, sure. But not calling it out like some warning sign. Do you accuse a group working for the ethical treatment of prisoners of not wanting everyone to be treated ethically? No. You see, that's how much I pay attention.
    - johngalt 13y ago
      "I haven't met a sane smart man who felt threatened by feminism." Talk to any male who has dealt with a female stalker. All the legal 'protections' put in place and advocated by feminist organizations don't apply to men. If anything they will be the tools used to further abuse. Sure no one is threatened by the dictionary definition. It's the polices advocated by feminist organizations.
    - derpanerb 13y ago
      No sane man is threatened by feminism? So when feminists pass bills that implement mandatory arrest policies for the male in any domestic violence calls.... a man would have to be insane to be threatened by that? Or when a feminist twists the definition of rape so that over 1 million male victims of rape are ignored every single year (which then allows them to come to some nice fancy conclusiosn like "95% of all rape victims are female")... I'm insane for being threatened by that too? And then we have NoW, the biggest feminist organization in the entire world... I must clearly be insane to be opposed to the fact that they constantly rally against any group or bill that tried to remove the bias from custody trials (in which mothers get custody 90+% of the time). And this is only scratching the surface... I suggest you stop being so ignorant of the many legitimate reasons why people have a problem with feminism.
johngalt 13y ago
Additionally, if you're anti-slavery you're by definition a Republican. If you don't identify as republican you're automatically pro-slavery. It's 2013, if you're not a republican by now what are you?

billb2112 13y ago

I disagree. There was another picture of Marissa Mayer to see.