It's true, but at least an older generation sees any kind of out of band disclosure as a fundamental attack on their views ob punishment. My father, for exmaple

It's true, but at least an older generation sees any kind of out of band disclosure as a fundamental attack on their views ob punishment. My father, for exmaple, recently retired but still works in the intelligence community. He bloody _hates_ all of the bulk surveillance, and is very careful about what he publishes on the internet. He routinely complains that current executive orders vis-aa-vis afgan tactics go too far, and never believed iraq made sense excpet to jr. but once somoone has dropped TS/NOFORN docs all over, he'll never give the guy even one bit of respect. Instead (and just like manning) he's quite riled up about how such a breech (even though he ws shocked and upset to read the lengths of data being hoovered) benefitted none of us. And yet having an official reference for things I'd be prone to rail on after a handful of drinks does us all good. Before the unfortunate listened would have to nod pollitely and meekly suggest, well I'm sur they're jusy looking out for us. I doubt many will end up seeing iy that way.