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Can you provide some photographic proof that you are who you say you are, edit: (sorry, the ability to remain anonymous is very important as lives are on the l

by maeon3 13y ago

Can you provide some photographic proof that you are who you say you are, edit: (sorry, the ability to remain anonymous is very important as lives are on the line). You might want to use a throw-away in that case as well because usernames can be tracked.

jacquesm 13y ago
> Can you provide some photographic proof that you are who you say you are, like maybe a picture of the riots (in bitbucket) linked in your profile here, with an embedded message to this post that isn't Photoshopped? wtf? Are you the identity police around here? Would you like the man to get a police visit? This comment and the one you posted below really make no sense at all.
ayi 13y ago
I don't think i can do this. Maybe you know Turkey as a modern, democratic country but we are not. I'm currently using Tor because of fear. You can face court in Turkey because of just re-tweeting something. edit: sorry for my english. edited for some grammer mistakes.
- maeon3 13y ago
  Ah, well then we'll take it on faith then. Why did you join the protest?
  - ayi 13y ago
    Because current government tries to change how we live. I think government's job is just trying to boost the economy, trying to not get into any war, paying the debts to IMF and etc. But current ruling party forces our life styles into a shape which they draw. Just one example: - Taksim Square is a famous tourist attraction centers of Istanbul. - Government first said to bars (pubs): "you can't put stalls on front of your bar." People protested just on facebook and twitter. - They said: "you can't sell alcohol after 10pm but you can sell other things". Nothing happened. Just some protests but our PM labeled protesters as "alcoholics". - After that they said: "Nope! No alcohol after 10 PM even for stores. You can't go to pubs, you can't buy from stores." People protested but PM said "So, you wanna raise your children as alcoholics?! We can't let this happen!" You smell where these is going? Current ruling party tries to divide Turkey in two sides. "Religious good citizens" vs "atheists, lgbts, alcoholics, left-wings" etc. Someone had to tell them "just because you are ruling party, you can't make everything you want". and we are trying to tell them this. by the way, sorry for my english again.
    - adaml_623 13y ago
      Is there an article you have seen in the western media that elaborates on what you've said here. I'm not finding my usual sources to be at all helpful explaining what is happening
      - ayi 13y ago
        english wikipedia is very comprehensive and up-to-date with even today: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_protests_in_Turkey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_protests_in_Turkey
      - lifeguard 13y ago
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_protests_in_Turkey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_protests_in_Turkey Globalize human rights!
    - druiid 13y ago
      Well, since you're answering questions... Would you say in general that the government is becoming less 'secular'? Have there been other large changes pushed by the government besides the big issues I have heard about (including the alcohol issue)? Also, have there been laws put in place against atheism or LGBT rights issues? One of the big issues right now is that these protests are not really getting coverage in the media here in the US. It's hard to get the full story.
      - ayi 13y ago
        "less secular" is not the only problem "less humble" is another. examples: - a blind man approached minister of health and says "we can't live with minimum-wage. Please improve current situations." And this is what the minister says: "You are blind and we gave you job. How dare you want more?" Source news article: http://gundem.milliyet.com.tr/bakan-akdag-gozlerin-gormuyor-sana-is-vermisiz-/gundem/gundemdetay/15.05.2011/1390638/default.htm http://gundem.milliyet.com.tr/bakan-akdag-gozlerin-gormuyor-... - they don't have shame. we are using one of the most expensive oil in the world and after the last raise government said: "we didn't raise the price of oil, we just raised the tax". I can't find anything to say about that. - These people protested against "internet ban": http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%B0nternetime_Dokunma http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%B0nternetime_Dokunma! What did government say? "These people are just a bunch of teenage porn-lovers" - The PM said: "Not everyone need to go to college. People who are educated too much are miserable." http://www.radikal.com.tr/haber.php?haberno=144718 http://www.radikal.com.tr/haber.php?haberno=144718 I can go on and on.
king_jester 13y ago
This is a really ridiculous request, several dozen people have already been arrested for tweets encouraging folks to protest. Asking this person to identify themselves this way puts them at significant risk.

by maeon3 13y ago

jacquesm 13y ago

> Can you provide some photographic proof that you are who you say you are, like maybe a picture of the riots (in bitbucket) linked in your profile here, with an embedded message to this post that isn't Photoshopped? wtf? Are you the identity police around here? Would you like the man to get a police visit? This comment and the one you posted below really make no sense at all.

ayi 13y ago

I don't think i can do this. Maybe you know Turkey as a modern, democratic country but we are not. I'm currently using Tor because of fear. You can face court in Turkey because of just re-tweeting something. edit: sorry for my english. edited for some grammer mistakes.

maeon3 13y ago
Ah, well then we'll take it on faith then. Why did you join the protest?
- ayi 13y ago
  Because current government tries to change how we live. I think government's job is just trying to boost the economy, trying to not get into any war, paying the debts to IMF and etc. But current ruling party forces our life styles into a shape which they draw. Just one example: - Taksim Square is a famous tourist attraction centers of Istanbul. - Government first said to bars (pubs): "you can't put stalls on front of your bar." People protested just on facebook and twitter. - They said: "you can't sell alcohol after 10pm but you can sell other things". Nothing happened. Just some protests but our PM labeled protesters as "alcoholics". - After that they said: "Nope! No alcohol after 10 PM even for stores. You can't go to pubs, you can't buy from stores." People protested but PM said "So, you wanna raise your children as alcoholics?! We can't let this happen!" You smell where these is going? Current ruling party tries to divide Turkey in two sides. "Religious good citizens" vs "atheists, lgbts, alcoholics, left-wings" etc. Someone had to tell them "just because you are ruling party, you can't make everything you want". and we are trying to tell them this. by the way, sorry for my english again.
  - adaml_623 13y ago
    Is there an article you have seen in the western media that elaborates on what you've said here. I'm not finding my usual sources to be at all helpful explaining what is happening
    - ayi 13y ago
      english wikipedia is very comprehensive and up-to-date with even today: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_protests_in_Turkey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_protests_in_Turkey
    - lifeguard 13y ago
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_protests_in_Turkey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_protests_in_Turkey Globalize human rights!
  - druiid 13y ago
    Well, since you're answering questions... Would you say in general that the government is becoming less 'secular'? Have there been other large changes pushed by the government besides the big issues I have heard about (including the alcohol issue)? Also, have there been laws put in place against atheism or LGBT rights issues? One of the big issues right now is that these protests are not really getting coverage in the media here in the US. It's hard to get the full story.
    - ayi 13y ago
      "less secular" is not the only problem "less humble" is another. examples: - a blind man approached minister of health and says "we can't live with minimum-wage. Please improve current situations." And this is what the minister says: "You are blind and we gave you job. How dare you want more?" Source news article: http://gundem.milliyet.com.tr/bakan-akdag-gozlerin-gormuyor-sana-is-vermisiz-/gundem/gundemdetay/15.05.2011/1390638/default.htm http://gundem.milliyet.com.tr/bakan-akdag-gozlerin-gormuyor-... - they don't have shame. we are using one of the most expensive oil in the world and after the last raise government said: "we didn't raise the price of oil, we just raised the tax". I can't find anything to say about that. - These people protested against "internet ban": http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%B0nternetime_Dokunma http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%B0nternetime_Dokunma! What did government say? "These people are just a bunch of teenage porn-lovers" - The PM said: "Not everyone need to go to college. People who are educated too much are miserable." http://www.radikal.com.tr/haber.php?haberno=144718 http://www.radikal.com.tr/haber.php?haberno=144718 I can go on and on.

king_jester 13y ago

This is a really ridiculous request, several dozen people have already been arrested for tweets encouraging folks to protest. Asking this person to identify themselves this way puts them at significant risk.