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> "caused muslims to hate us" Well, that's a few simultaneous fallacies. But, yes, your policies led to the 9/11 attackers deciding to attack you. Is this not

by wnight 13y ago

> "caused muslims to hate us" Well, that's a few simultaneous fallacies. But, yes, your policies led to the 9/11 attackers deciding to attack you. Is this not blisteringly obvious? > and that therefor we should change them??????????? Oh gosh no, change? Not mid-stream.

Tangaroa 13y ago
> But, yes, your policies led to the 9/11 attackers deciding to attack you. Is this not blisteringly obvious? In exactly the same way that wearing miniskirts leads to rape. Take for example UBL's main grievance: the presence of the international Desert Shield force, or as UBL put it, allowing infidels to live in the land of the two holy cities. That force was there at the request of King Saud of Arabia. So what makes this agreement between King Saud and 30+ other powers a valid cause for the King's subjects, or anybody else, to wage war against the US? What makes Usama bin Laden the superior authority to say who is allowed to live in Arabia? What justifies forbidding people from holding any other religious belief than the approved one? What makes Usama bin Laden the sole authority on religious matters in Arabia who can decide what religion people are allowed to believe?
- Ygg2 13y ago
  Ehm, didn't USA support Israel which was/is very hostile towards Muslims living on its territory (Gaza Strip)? So it's not like their politics weren't giving Al-Queda a reason to be provoked. To use your metaphor, it's a lot like wearing a miniskirt and flashing the perpetrator. Neither side is really 100% clean in this.
- wnight 13y ago
  > same way that wearing miniskirts leads to rape. No, not at all. That's the dumbest thing someone has said on here in weeks. You should be ashamed. The miniskirt analogy is to describe someone innocent and helpless! > That force was there at the request of King Saud Wow, who could disagree with a monarch? Especially an oil-rich one looking for foreign protectors. > What justifies forbidding people from holding any other religious belief than the approved one? Nobody is. This is where you can't stand to lose so you start lying and throwing in irrelevant things. > What makes Usama bin Laden the superior authority to say who is allowed to live in Arabia? What makes you the authority? Bush is more of a religious fanatic, and killed over two-hundred times more people than Osama. Anyways, yes, they did attack you for things you did. You can act like a child "I'm just swinging my fist - too bad if it hits your nose" or you can realize the impacts of your actions, and that yes, people will react to them. Even if you disagree you can see learn to see it coming.

by wnight 13y ago

Tangaroa 13y ago

> But, yes, your policies led to the 9/11 attackers deciding to attack you. Is this not blisteringly obvious? In exactly the same way that wearing miniskirts leads to rape. Take for example UBL's main grievance: the presence of the international Desert Shield force, or as UBL put it, allowing infidels to live in the land of the two holy cities. That force was there at the request of King Saud of Arabia. So what makes this agreement between King Saud and 30+ other powers a valid cause for the King's subjects, or anybody else, to wage war against the US? What makes Usama bin Laden the superior authority to say who is allowed to live in Arabia? What justifies forbidding people from holding any other religious belief than the approved one? What makes Usama bin Laden the sole authority on religious matters in Arabia who can decide what religion people are allowed to believe?

Ygg2 13y ago
Ehm, didn't USA support Israel which was/is very hostile towards Muslims living on its territory (Gaza Strip)? So it's not like their politics weren't giving Al-Queda a reason to be provoked. To use your metaphor, it's a lot like wearing a miniskirt and flashing the perpetrator. Neither side is really 100% clean in this.
wnight 13y ago
> same way that wearing miniskirts leads to rape. No, not at all. That's the dumbest thing someone has said on here in weeks. You should be ashamed. The miniskirt analogy is to describe someone innocent and helpless! > That force was there at the request of King Saud Wow, who could disagree with a monarch? Especially an oil-rich one looking for foreign protectors. > What justifies forbidding people from holding any other religious belief than the approved one? Nobody is. This is where you can't stand to lose so you start lying and throwing in irrelevant things. > What makes Usama bin Laden the superior authority to say who is allowed to live in Arabia? What makes you the authority? Bush is more of a religious fanatic, and killed over two-hundred times more people than Osama. Anyways, yes, they did attack you for things you did. You can act like a child "I'm just swinging my fist - too bad if it hits your nose" or you can realize the impacts of your actions, and that yes, people will react to them. Even if you disagree you can see learn to see it coming.