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Graduate software engineer jobs in the UK hit £30,000 at the very top end. From the experience of friends in the industry, £24,000-26,000 seems more realistic.
by rcush 13y ago
Graduate software engineer jobs in the UK hit £30,000 at the very top end. From the experience of friends in the industry, £24,000-26,000 seems more realistic.
- vineel 13y agoIs this before or after taxes? Because American salaries are typically reported before taxes.
- tharshan09 13y agoYes before taxes. The 16k I reported was before. So I got roughly ~12k.
- objclxt 13y agoI wouldn't say 'very top end' - I've hired graduates for more than that. Not much more (£36k, I think, was the highest), but there's always flexibility.
- slevin8 13y agoI work as junior software engineer in central London and my salary is £26.000 before taxes. I think I am underpaid but there are a lot of benefits (gym, breakfast, friday lunch, office in Soho), so I can't complain.
- hipstercode 13y agoIn a similar situation to you, what is included in your role as a 'junior' if you don't mind me asking?
- ollysb 13y agoA year after I graduated I got my first role in London at £27000 for a dev role (one above junior). This was an enterprise java role and in the first year I worked in a team of 3 building a custom CMS (it was a telecoms publishing house) and then a BI platform. My pay moved up fairly quickly over the years but I don't think I know even a CTO here who earns more than £90000. The SF salaries do sound crazy high.
- justincormack 13y agoCTOs do get paid more than £90k here. Enterprise Java has fairly high supply of candidates, and often the companies do not value people much, so it is probably a low pay area.
- slevin8 13y agoWell, let me clarify this. When I started I was just graduated and I came in London without actually speaking english. So, though I had some cool side projects, they couldn't offer me more. Now, things are completely different. I improved my language and most of all I improved my skill. In my role as a 'junior' I do the same job of my colleagues, the only difference is that they don't let me to lead a project, mainly because I am not yet able to properly speak with clients.
- justincormack 13y agoThat is low. It is hard to know what people mean by "junior" but you should expect to get a decent pay increase every year or more often really from that level.
- ryanSrich 13y agoHow? This always confused me. That's approaching the poverty line here in the U.S. For example: a standard McDonald's employee makes roughly $24,000 per year. This requires no education and just about anyone can do the work. It's also considered one of the lowest level jobs a person can get. I'm not degrading those people I'm just speaking on the status quo. Now take a look at a manager at McDonalds. They're approaching almost $40,000 per year. You're telling me that you make less than a McDonalds manager? A job which requires no education, and arguably no real skill beyond what's taught at work? This is absolutely insane to me that the pay is so low. How do you afford to eat? How do you afford health insurance or a car or rent? I know when I was working for $15 an hour ($28,800 per year) I had a hard time just paying the bills. The rent was always late and I had to drop my health insurance for a couple years. Do you not have student loans?
- willmw101 13y agoI dont think you've accounted for the exchange rate. £26,000 is approx. $40,000.
- mratzloff 13y agoIt depends on cost of living. What is a McDonald's (or similar) manager paid in London?
- ryanSrich 13y agoNot quite (£39473.20). But I get what you mean. Still 40k a year for a software developer? Even double that is considered low here in the U.S.
- willmw101 13y ago"Not quite"?? Did you really just write that when I wrote approx $40K?? Which it clearly is. Wow, someones afraid to be wrong.
- rythie 13y ago£26k is low for London but should be fine outside London - I would assume that it would increase to £35k after a year or two if he was staying in London. Most people in the UK don't have health insurance because it's not needed because we have the NHS. Student loans will most likely only be with the government's SLC agency which only takes 9% of your salary above £21k. Many people who live in Lomdon don't have cars because there is little point, however travel cards still cost a lot anyway.
- Ives 13y agoIn Belgium it's something like that too (for people with a master degree).
- Jabbles 13y agoI know that Cisco offers £36000.
- Swannie 13y agoThere are many, many programs at Cisco. I don't know any that offer that as an initial salary. There may be a "total benefits package" that, in theory, adds up to that.
- adventureloop 13y agoFrom my experience(graduated last year) the range people from my class took was 16-32k.