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Because the technology industry depends on a lot of idealistic young workers putting in plenty of unpaid overtime, and no one ever motivated that commitment wit
by gamble 13y ago
Because the technology industry depends on a lot of idealistic young workers putting in plenty of unpaid overtime, and no one ever motivated that commitment with a call to increase shareholder returns by 17%.
- jimmaswell 13y agoUnpaid overtime isn't legal in the United States where SF is, as far as I know.
- jelled 13y agoAre you familiar with the word "salary"?
- jimmaswell 13y agoAfter researching the issue deeper, apparently there are exceptions to the time-and-a-half regulation, and programmers are an exception. I'm not sure why you're specifically mentioning the word salary though.
- wging 13y agoMany people are not paid for their time (wages). Instead they're paid a fixed rate (a salary). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salary#United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salary#United_States
- NegativeK 13y agoI think what jimmaswell was getting at is that salary does not equate to overtime exempt. There's plenty of overlap, but salaried workers who aren't exempt get paid overtime on a calculated basis.
- coldtea 13y agoWhat passes for "salaried time" in the US and SF is called unpaid overtime to everywhere else in the world.
- johnjlocke 13y agoDevelopers can always quit. The only reasons they don't is that they love to code, and they are hoping for an equity cash-out from an IPO or acquisition down the line.
- coldtea 13y ago>Developers can always quit. The only reasons they don't is that they love to code, and they are hoping for an equity cash-out from an IPO or acquisition down the line. Or they need to feed their family. Seeings as a lot (MOST!) developers are not "rock stars" by any stretch of the imagination, don't make that much, and some are not willing to relocate to another state/city.
- jimmaswell 13y agoI've heard that if you're a "good" developer it shouldn't be too hard to get at least 100k a year if you try. Seems like a pretty good amount to me. Depends where you live, I guess - that might only go as far in SF as 80 would go elsewhere, or something like that.
- wittysense 13y agoWhile we claim people are addicted to FB etc because of their devices, it's somehow okay to let developers drive themselves mad so that we can ask 10 years later: So what IDE do you think axed your brain? Startups will categorically enfeeble more people than any war. And we'll do it in the name of GTD and competition with our own machines.