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The whole design of the One seems mired in the past. No substantial changes to the developer relationship, no acknowledgement of the app market, a subscription

by gamble 13y ago

The whole design of the One seems mired in the past. No substantial changes to the developer relationship, no acknowledgement of the app market, a subscription service to go online, DRM and used game fees to protect the existing retail model, etc. And in exchange... a cable box? Will people even have cable in five years? It's like they set out to design the next Xbox without acknowledging that anything other than hardware has changed since 2005.

anonymousab 13y ago
It doesn't even function as a cable box, it just adds an overlay to one being plugged in. Ridiculous. Like adding Meta features to VCR playback in 2000.
Karunamon 13y ago
Worth mentioning, the "used game fees" thing is highly disputed right now. There are different people within Microsoft and within official channels who are saying different things.
- gamble 13y ago
  That's the biggest fail from the announcement. Microsoft mentioned a number of things that are guaranteed to provoke gamers, like used game fees and always-on DRM, then refused to clarify any of them. Some reporters present got flat refusals to answer questions while others were given different answers depending on who they talked to.
- chc 13y ago
  Do you have any links to anyone clearly disputing it? Because I haven't seen any. The closest I've seen is a guy saying, effectively, "Of course we wouldn't do that! Unless it's a used game. We don't want to talk about that case yet."
  - gamble 13y ago
    From what I can tell buying a physical disk gives you an activation key that you apply to your console. Any profile on your console can play that game. If you bring the disk to another console and use your profile, you can also play the game. If you try to use the game on another console and profile, you either have to buy another copy or transfer the license from your profile to theirs.
  - Karunamon 13y ago
    I dug these up from Facebook: https://twitter.com/XboxSupport3/status/336924786410278912 https://twitter.com/XboxSupport3/status/336924786410278912 https://twitter.com/MrJonty/status/336924553848684544 https://twitter.com/MrJonty/status/336924553848684544 Newer, Major Nelson has come and said that there is "no confirmation" on anything other than the ability to trade and resell games. http://majornelson.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-and-used-games/ http://majornelson.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-and-used-games/

by gamble 13y ago

anonymousab 13y ago

It doesn't even function as a cable box, it just adds an overlay to one being plugged in. Ridiculous. Like adding Meta features to VCR playback in 2000.

Karunamon 13y ago

Worth mentioning, the "used game fees" thing is highly disputed right now. There are different people within Microsoft and within official channels who are saying different things.

gamble 13y ago
That's the biggest fail from the announcement. Microsoft mentioned a number of things that are guaranteed to provoke gamers, like used game fees and always-on DRM, then refused to clarify any of them. Some reporters present got flat refusals to answer questions while others were given different answers depending on who they talked to.
chc 13y ago
Do you have any links to anyone clearly disputing it? Because I haven't seen any. The closest I've seen is a guy saying, effectively, "Of course we wouldn't do that! Unless it's a used game. We don't want to talk about that case yet."
- gamble 13y ago
  From what I can tell buying a physical disk gives you an activation key that you apply to your console. Any profile on your console can play that game. If you bring the disk to another console and use your profile, you can also play the game. If you try to use the game on another console and profile, you either have to buy another copy or transfer the license from your profile to theirs.
- Karunamon 13y ago
  I dug these up from Facebook: https://twitter.com/XboxSupport3/status/336924786410278912 https://twitter.com/XboxSupport3/status/336924786410278912 https://twitter.com/MrJonty/status/336924553848684544 https://twitter.com/MrJonty/status/336924553848684544 Newer, Major Nelson has come and said that there is "no confirmation" on anything other than the ability to trade and resell games. http://majornelson.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-and-used-games/ http://majornelson.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-and-used-games/