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I disagree. We don't know what Yahoo wants to do with Tumblr. All we have are rumors, a WSJ report and tons of idle speculation. Without knowing what the intend
by gnok 13y ago
I disagree. We don't know what Yahoo wants to do with Tumblr. All we have are rumors, a WSJ report and tons of idle speculation. Without knowing what the intended end game is, I don't see how we can call the acquisition a "success" or "failure", much less the CEO's. I also don't agree that "a sign of progress" is "making it succeed in the long run".
Google is no genius with large acquisitions either. Motorola and Blogger come to mind immediately, but there are others too.
I think we can all agree that Yahoo has been mismanaged at least until recently. I just don't think a CEO's performance is a boolean value that depends on an undefined "any sign of failure" on a large acquisition with a 1 year time frame.
- untog 13y agoI also don't agree that "a sign of progress" is "making it succeed in the long run". What? How can success ever not be a sign of progress? I know Silicon Valley likes to celebrate and learn from failure, but there ought to be a limit somewhere.
- gnok 13y agoI meant the converse, sorry. I was responding to the idea that "a sign of progress" within a year is the same as "making it succeed in the long run".
- zaidf 13y agoGoogle is a genius at acquisitions IMO. To qualify as a genius you don't need a 100% of acquisitions to work out. You do need a few to work out tremendously. Google has those. Meanwhile, what's the last yahoo acquisition that didn't turn into disappointment soon after the acquisition? We can go back 15 years and be hard-pressed to find one. On the other hand there are plenty of disaster acquisitions including broadcast.com, geocities, bluelithium etc.
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- technoslut 13y ago>Meanwhile, what's the last yahoo acquisition that didn't turn into disappointment soon after the acquisition? One could argue that that the last acquisition that worked out was the acquisition of Stamped. Something tells me they were behind the new Yahoo! Weather iPhone app which is stellar.
- gnok 13y agoI don't mean to imply that Yahoo is more successful than Google at acquisitions (We know that isn't the case). I just don't think Google is a good benchmark for acquisitions. I think they as good or as bad as Yahoo. I think Yahoo's problem with acquisitions has been that they are moderately successful initially and then drift away over time. ViaWeb, GeoCities, Musicmatch Jukebox, Konfabulator, delicious and Ludicorp (of Flickr fame) come to mind. Other than Flickr, none of the others are still around, but they weren't disappointments soon after acquisition either.
- georgemcbay 13y agoKonfabulator is still (unfortunately) somewhat still around in the form of Yahoo Widgets for Connected TVs, a platform I have had the misfortune of working with in the past. But I suspect this too will soon be dead as any interest that still exists in this area has already shifted to Google TV.
- ensignavenger 13y agoViaWeb was re-branded Yahoo Stores, and is still alive and, presumably, healthy.
- fuci 13y agoEven GeoCities is actually still around in the form of Yahoo! Small Business. At least from a technology perspective.
- damncabbage 13y agoOf a sort. It was rewritten in C++ and Perl (http://people.csail.mit.edu/gregs/ll1-discuss-archive-html/msg02367.html http://people.csail.mit.edu/gregs/ll1-discuss-archive-html/m...), but is still an active product in its new form.
- SZenith 13y agoI sense a theme there: everything they acquired was underwhelming before they acquired it. Tumblr, on the other hand, has a lot of users that are fully addicted. I can see things turning out differently.
- davidw 13y agoThis thread sounds like "he said, she said". Anyone got a nice spreadsheet of who has acquired what, with the fate of the acquired unit and people? How long did they stick around? That seems like the minimum - maybe there are clever ways to add information to it.
- droithomme 13y agoHere you go, per your request, all 76 of them, but not including this latest one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Yahoo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitio...!
- virtuz 13y agoThey bought GeoCities in 1999. I can't help but think history is repeating itself.
- jorgeortiz85 13y agoOverture?
- patrickaljord 13y agoGoogle is just getting started with Motorola so it's too soon to tell and I'm pretty sure that Blogger has been a huge success (through adsense) and many successful blogs uses it. It went down though since Facebook and Twitter for obvious reasons but the same thing happened to most blogging platforms.
- djrogers 13y agoI'm sorry, but in the 12 months since the acquisition was announced, MOT has lost pretty much every court case it's been in, had patents invalidated, has been passed over by google for 4 (might be even more?) flagship 'nexus' products, and hasn't built/shipped/teased a single thing newsworthy. You can't seriously be arguing that this has gone well?
- clicks 13y ago> MOT has lost pretty much every court case it's been in I think for Google to be assuming an aggressive position in the courts is just posturing. Can you imagine the reaction if Google did really go all at it, and there was a result of an injunction against sale of all iPhones? No, of course Google/MOT would not go for something like that, that makes no sense. As it stands though, MOT's patent portfolio is pretty damn good. They're in a good position for it. It was something they needed and now they have it.
- Zigurd 13y agoGoogle needs to be finished with Motorola. "Just getting started" is what you hear from Nokia. That's not a good sound.
- patrickaljord 13y agoMotorola is a hardware company. it takes much longer to fix a hardware company. Do you think it took 12 months for Steve Jobs to fix Apple when he came back? Come on.
- ISL 13y agoTo know that Motorola was a poor acquisition, you'd need to know what would have happened if Google hadn't done it. Defensive/preventative decisions are sometimes undervalued.
- pseut 13y agoFor a random $30mil acquisition (hypothetically), there's a lot of gray area where it's hard to judge whether the overall benefit to the parent company is net positive or net negative. For a $1 bil acquisition, it's a lot easier to judge and the stakes are a lot higher.
- Zigurd 13y agoMotorola stands out as a clunker. It is very expensive, even for Google. It is a distraction for management. It is a threat to Google's culture. It fails to be a stick to beat patent trolls. It has all the problems of an underperforming mobile OEM, while breeding doubt among Google's important partners. And all these criticisms were leveled by many people before Google bought Motorola. Some things really are plain to see. So far, Meyer is doing what needs to be done to turn Yahoo into a first tier competitor. Who knows if she will succeed, but it's good to see them try.
- gahahaha 13y ago> Motorola stands out as a clunker. When Google bought Motorola, the reasoning I read was all about patents. They still have those patents, and it might have been a good acquisition no matter the state of Motorola the company...
- rhizome 13y agoAnd hey look, a coincidence: Google has been getting more and more into hardware since then.
- gummydude 13y agoMotorola X-Phone