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That sounds good from my end (as the freelancer), but won't the client be upset if they pay a day rate for what might end up being a half day's work? I guess th

by effbott 13y ago

That sounds good from my end (as the freelancer), but won't the client be upset if they pay a day rate for what might end up being a half day's work? I guess the client would have no way of knowing this, but it still makes me feel uneasy.

tptacek 13y ago
That is their problem and not yours. Establish a sane pricing system, communicate it to your client, and move on. I would (again) argue that hourly billing is almost never a sane system.
msrpotus 13y ago
I've never had a client ask or complain about that, and the ones who would probably aren't clients you want, either.
chrsstrm 13y ago
There is a difference between cost and value. The client valued your ability to solve their problem as equal to your daily rate. It shouldn't matter if it took you 1 hour or 8 hours, they are paying for a result, not for you to punch a clock.
damoncali 13y ago
You need to get out of the mindset of charging for your time. You are charging for the value you create - and time is just a crude approximation of that at best. What if you gave a client two choices: fixed price for $1,000 or hourly at $100/hour with an estimate of 8-12 hours. They're on the fence, but opt for the fixed price deal. You luck out and knock the work out in 3 hours. Do you feel bad? No. You gave them $1000 worth of value. Now what if they had chosen hourly? Now you get $300 in exchange for the $1000 of value you delivered. Don't do that. No, what's going to piss them off is when you deliver $1000 of value, but take 20 hours to do it and charge them $2000. Your goal is to match the value you create with the money they pay. That's how you build lasting profitable relationships. You're not charging for time. You're charging for software.
petervandijck 13y ago
The client is not paying you for your hours. It really doesn't matter to them whether you take an hour or a day to do the job, as long as it gets done.

by effbott 13y ago

tptacek 13y ago

That is their problem and not yours. Establish a sane pricing system, communicate it to your client, and move on. I would (again) argue that hourly billing is almost never a sane system.

msrpotus 13y ago

I've never had a client ask or complain about that, and the ones who would probably aren't clients you want, either.

chrsstrm 13y ago

There is a difference between cost and value. The client valued your ability to solve their problem as equal to your daily rate. It shouldn't matter if it took you 1 hour or 8 hours, they are paying for a result, not for you to punch a clock.

damoncali 13y ago

You need to get out of the mindset of charging for your time. You are charging for the value you create - and time is just a crude approximation of that at best. What if you gave a client two choices: fixed price for $1,000 or hourly at $100/hour with an estimate of 8-12 hours. They're on the fence, but opt for the fixed price deal. You luck out and knock the work out in 3 hours. Do you feel bad? No. You gave them $1000 worth of value. Now what if they had chosen hourly? Now you get $300 in exchange for the $1000 of value you delivered. Don't do that. No, what's going to piss them off is when you deliver $1000 of value, but take 20 hours to do it and charge them $2000. Your goal is to match the value you create with the money they pay. That's how you build lasting profitable relationships. You're not charging for time. You're charging for software.

petervandijck 13y ago

The client is not paying you for your hours. It really doesn't matter to them whether you take an hour or a day to do the job, as long as it gets done.