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I'm against showing banners in my app ;)

United857 13y ago
Why not open source it like most other JS tools? You've built on top of other open-source such as node.js. Just a matter of good citizenship in the JS community.
- rikarends 13y ago
  This tool has taken quite a lot of my time, and i though i'd try an actual business model for a change.
  - Korvin 13y ago
    I would gladly donate $20+ for this if it does what you show it doing, but I feel wrong /paying/ $14 to try it.
    - rikarends 13y ago
      Since its all JS its hard to make a try before you buy experience.
      - Korvin 13y ago
        Right, I'm not saying that you should either. Just an observation of my own reaction.
  - cjbprime 13y ago
    A random suggestion, then: perhaps try selling it for a few months, and if the number of sales starts to tail off and you still feel uncompensated, set a fundraising goal at which you'd release it open source? As others said, I'm more interested in donating (and helping to persuade others to) to make it available for everyone than I am in buying a copy. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/tern-intelligent-javascript-editing http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/tern-intelligent-javascrip... is an example of successfully raising money for a javascript tool, although in that case the money was raised before the work was finished.
  - United857 13y ago
    I certainly appreciate that. But also, open source and business models are not mutually exclusive. Perhaps you can open source the core code and then charge for support or extensions, like many others do with Linux, Apache, etc. Plus, if you have more people contributing changes/additions, you might have less of a workload. One last question for you: if I pay, do I get the source that I can tinker with/extend, or is it in a minified/obfuscated format?
    - johtso 13y ago
      The code is not minified or obfuscated.
    - rikarends 13y ago
      No i left the code unminified/unobfuscated on purpose. If you paid for it you get the freedom to hack on it if you want.
  - funkaster 13y ago
    Completely agree with you. It's incredible good priced, and the bitcoin payment option... just great :) I bought it just a few hours ago, works excellent.
- DoctorStrange 13y ago
  Why the fuck is this community so against indie developers from monetizing their desktop software? Nobody complains when SAAS products or mobile apps are monetized. Hypocrisy is astounding here.
  - Korvin 13y ago
    Why are you so against people giving their opinions? It doesn't read like they are saying that free and open source is the only path, just that they would prefer that it was.
    - adamnemecek 13y ago
      Because a community backlash might make some developers think twice before building something awesome like this.
- CodeCube 13y ago
  Yeah, I've got to agree with the others here. There's nothing inherent with the JS community that dictates a good actor should automatically open source something they've done. He's free to assign whatever exchange of value he wants for the work that he's done, just as everyone else is free to choose whether they want to give the amount he's chosen in exchange for access to the software.
- markus2012 13y ago
  Good citizenship = giving away your hard work for free? Good grief.

Why not open source it like most other JS tools? You've built on top of other open-source such as node.js. Just a matter of good citizenship in the JS community.

rikarends 13y ago
This tool has taken quite a lot of my time, and i though i'd try an actual business model for a change.
- Korvin 13y ago
  I would gladly donate $20+ for this if it does what you show it doing, but I feel wrong /paying/ $14 to try it.
  - rikarends 13y ago
    Since its all JS its hard to make a try before you buy experience.
    - Korvin 13y ago
      Right, I'm not saying that you should either. Just an observation of my own reaction.
- cjbprime 13y ago
  A random suggestion, then: perhaps try selling it for a few months, and if the number of sales starts to tail off and you still feel uncompensated, set a fundraising goal at which you'd release it open source? As others said, I'm more interested in donating (and helping to persuade others to) to make it available for everyone than I am in buying a copy. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/tern-intelligent-javascript-editing http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/tern-intelligent-javascrip... is an example of successfully raising money for a javascript tool, although in that case the money was raised before the work was finished.
- United857 13y ago
  I certainly appreciate that. But also, open source and business models are not mutually exclusive. Perhaps you can open source the core code and then charge for support or extensions, like many others do with Linux, Apache, etc. Plus, if you have more people contributing changes/additions, you might have less of a workload. One last question for you: if I pay, do I get the source that I can tinker with/extend, or is it in a minified/obfuscated format?
  - johtso 13y ago
    The code is not minified or obfuscated.
  - rikarends 13y ago
    No i left the code unminified/unobfuscated on purpose. If you paid for it you get the freedom to hack on it if you want.
- funkaster 13y ago
  Completely agree with you. It's incredible good priced, and the bitcoin payment option... just great :) I bought it just a few hours ago, works excellent.
DoctorStrange 13y ago
Why the fuck is this community so against indie developers from monetizing their desktop software? Nobody complains when SAAS products or mobile apps are monetized. Hypocrisy is astounding here.
- Korvin 13y ago
  Why are you so against people giving their opinions? It doesn't read like they are saying that free and open source is the only path, just that they would prefer that it was.
  - adamnemecek 13y ago
    Because a community backlash might make some developers think twice before building something awesome like this.
CodeCube 13y ago
Yeah, I've got to agree with the others here. There's nothing inherent with the JS community that dictates a good actor should automatically open source something they've done. He's free to assign whatever exchange of value he wants for the work that he's done, just as everyone else is free to choose whether they want to give the amount he's chosen in exchange for access to the software.
markus2012 13y ago
Good citizenship = giving away your hard work for free? Good grief.