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Couldn't agree more so. What "precautions" and new reforms are we gonna see in the name of security?

w1ntermute 13y ago
No doubt some "reforms" will be implemented that will funnel even more money into the pockets of lobbyist-using companies and big-time campaign donors.
numbsafari 13y ago
Who knows. But after every crisis there should be a post mortem and we should learn from what went wrong. And why does every change in policy and approach have to be seen as a threat to anybody's freedoms? Not that many of the short-sighted response aren't just that, but this sort of knee jerk reaction seems just as unhealthy.
- Osiris 13y ago
  There's no way to prevent every crisis. Just because something bad happens doesn't mean that there is something that you could have done to stop it. Sometimes people just need to realize that things happen and we don't have to pass new laws and regulations every time something bad happens.
  - njittam 13y ago
    a security reseacher made a bomb from stuff he bought after going trough the costums at schiphol. so most of the security is just show off.
  - illuminate 13y ago
    Who said anything about the post-mortems necessitating new laws? Use the powers we're given smarter, less broadly.
  - Duhck 13y ago
    Try saying that when you are directly affected by actions like this. It is easy to stand back at 100ft and say this type of crap, but the fact is, crazy people are all around us, and we should try to be proactive instead of reactive. We as a society owe it ourselves to reflect on events such as this, and see if there was anything that could have been done to prevent it. If the answer is yes, then we SHOULD act. Does that mean freedoms need to be restricted, laws to be enacted? No, it could mean better technology, maybe better security, maybe MORE security. I hope no new laws come of something like this, but if it means reducing the chance that this happens again, I am all for it. Our rights are absolute, but we also need to compromise. We can't let ourselves become 1984, but we can become safer, smarter, more efficient with regards to security.
    - buffportion 13y ago
      You're asking for a solution to the problem of people killing other people.
      - Duhck 13y ago
        No, people will always kill other people, that is the unfortunate truth of human nature. That doesn't mean there aren't multiple problems here, and each one with multiple solutions. Our lawmakers know just as well as we do, that more laws won't fix events like these, but better messaging ("See something say something"), better trained police officers, etc.. these are things that are controllable, changeable, and have a hugely positive impact on preventing horrible things like this from happening.
        nitrogen 13y ago
        "See something say something" is still far too late in the process. As a society we need to do a better job of preventing people from being abused, neglected, and marginalized.
        Duhck 13y ago
        Agreed, I just was using it as an example. Taking action doesn't have to mean restricting our freedoms.
larrys 13y ago
"we gonna see in the name of security" Watershed events always create these emotional knee jerk reactions. As opposed to "well we can save lives by driving 50 mph instead of 70 mph but since that's legacy we aren't likely to not consider the impact on society as a whole by lowering the speed limit."

No doubt some "reforms" will be implemented that will funnel even more money into the pockets of lobbyist-using companies and big-time campaign donors.

numbsafari 13y ago

Who knows. But after every crisis there should be a post mortem and we should learn from what went wrong. And why does every change in policy and approach have to be seen as a threat to anybody's freedoms? Not that many of the short-sighted response aren't just that, but this sort of knee jerk reaction seems just as unhealthy.

Osiris 13y ago
There's no way to prevent every crisis. Just because something bad happens doesn't mean that there is something that you could have done to stop it. Sometimes people just need to realize that things happen and we don't have to pass new laws and regulations every time something bad happens.
- njittam 13y ago
  a security reseacher made a bomb from stuff he bought after going trough the costums at schiphol. so most of the security is just show off.
- illuminate 13y ago
  Who said anything about the post-mortems necessitating new laws? Use the powers we're given smarter, less broadly.
- Duhck 13y ago
  Try saying that when you are directly affected by actions like this. It is easy to stand back at 100ft and say this type of crap, but the fact is, crazy people are all around us, and we should try to be proactive instead of reactive. We as a society owe it ourselves to reflect on events such as this, and see if there was anything that could have been done to prevent it. If the answer is yes, then we SHOULD act. Does that mean freedoms need to be restricted, laws to be enacted? No, it could mean better technology, maybe better security, maybe MORE security. I hope no new laws come of something like this, but if it means reducing the chance that this happens again, I am all for it. Our rights are absolute, but we also need to compromise. We can't let ourselves become 1984, but we can become safer, smarter, more efficient with regards to security.
  - buffportion 13y ago
    You're asking for a solution to the problem of people killing other people.
    - Duhck 13y ago
      No, people will always kill other people, that is the unfortunate truth of human nature. That doesn't mean there aren't multiple problems here, and each one with multiple solutions. Our lawmakers know just as well as we do, that more laws won't fix events like these, but better messaging ("See something say something"), better trained police officers, etc.. these are things that are controllable, changeable, and have a hugely positive impact on preventing horrible things like this from happening.
      - nitrogen 13y ago
        "See something say something" is still far too late in the process. As a society we need to do a better job of preventing people from being abused, neglected, and marginalized.
        Duhck 13y ago
        Agreed, I just was using it as an example. Taking action doesn't have to mean restricting our freedoms.

larrys 13y ago

"we gonna see in the name of security" Watershed events always create these emotional knee jerk reactions. As opposed to "well we can save lives by driving 50 mph instead of 70 mph but since that's legacy we aren't likely to not consider the impact on society as a whole by lowering the speed limit."