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Trek doesn't like this guy's tone, therefore he "can't" respond?

• nsxwolf 14y ago
  The guy didn't sound "uncivil" to me, he just sounded frustrated. If what he reported is accurate, the frustration seems totally understandable.
  • Filligree 14y ago
    It's definitely understandable. I spent about two weeks forcing my way to a functional Ember application, because the framework seemed to have promise. In the process I needed to bother the developers on IRC, read a nontrivial fraction of the Ember JS code, and implement missing Ember functionality from scratch (KVO-compliant dictionaries). Ember doesn't work unless you get everything right, and doesn't provide much in the way of diagnostics, so it was one of the harshest learning curves I've ever run into. They really need to work on their tutorials. It works really well now, though. :X
  • arkitaip 14y ago
    He was sarcastic but that's hardly being uncivil. Thing is, his complaint is probably very representative of many beginners so giving the impression that you're ignoring it can have a very negative impact on a project like Ember.js.
• niggler 14y ago
  (FTR: I think his reaction was deplorable) By din of its presence on the front page of HN he has to say something, but doesn't actually want to engage in what probably would become a massive ember-bashing thread by others who were frustrated with ember, so he acknowledged receipt without giving a formal response.
  • patejam 14y ago
    It's quite simple and sufficient to say something along the lines of "You are right, we are working on this. In the mean time check out some example code here...".
    • niggler 14y ago
      (I fully agree with you and I think the guy's comment was really poor) "You are right" admits that it is not currently easy, and I don't think he wanted to say that outright.
      • moron4hire 14y ago
        There is nothing wrong with admitting you were wrong or admitting someone else was right. It shows maturity.
• rquantz 14y ago
  Apparently when you need help you're supposed to wait a few hours to cool down before you actually post your question.
  • maligree 14y ago
    Not sure how serious you are, but I hate what you just said. It's like.. YOUR software made me frustrated, don't tell me to just wait it off. The reason I'm talking to you like this is YOUR code. And sure, when it's just raving, that may be right, but the guy genuinely TRIED and went through hoop after hoop.
    • jvzr 14y ago
      He was being sarcastic. I'm pretty sure you both agree to the same point.
      • maligree 14y ago
        Fist bump* then. * - or any other commonly accepted ritual interpretable as "we cool, we cool". The cooler the better.
        • rquantz 14y ago
          Hmm, I wasn't exactly thinking of it as sarcasm when I wrote it, more pointing out what trek seemed to be expecting, which seemed unreasonable to me. But I guess doing that amounts to the same thing as sarcasm. Fist bump* in return.
          • jvzr 14y ago
            I heart the love in that thread, guys!
• Kiro 14y ago
  trek just convinced me not to use Ember.
• bvdbijl 14y ago
  That reaction is incredibly smug
• sdogruyol 14y ago
  he's way too "can't" actually more like cba to respond.
• _ak 14y ago
  Because, you know, ad hominem claims of lack of civility will always get you around the issue of having to face and talk about the pain points in your software.
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