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AZ: it's illegal for transgender people to use bathrooms of their preferred sex

8 points by jaredonline 14y ago

egypturnash 14y ago
I am a transwoman who totally passes. My ID says F but my birth certificate says M. Now I want to stick said birth certificate into my purse and go to Arizona, and start pissing in the men's room everywhere I go. Ideally I should find a transman who nobody would ever read as a lady to hang out with and do the same. Also apparently Arizona has such a problem with transpeople casually using the proper bathroom that this amendment is an EMERGENCY.
- NotUncivil 14y ago
  >I want to stick said birth certificate into my purse and go to Arizona, and start pissing in the men's room everywhere I go. If you found a few more dumb gender laws like this to exploit and went around obeying their letter it could make for good material for a documentary (might not be the best example but think Religulous).
  - snogglethorpe 14y ago
    > If you found a few more dumb gender laws like this to exploit and went around obeying their letter it could make for good material for a documentary "Road trip!" Maybe a bus! :]
Glyptodon 14y ago
It's proposed, not passed, no? It's also completely unrelated to the bill it's amending (http://www.azleg.gov/DocumentsForBill.asp?Bill_Number=SB1432&Session_ID=110 http://www.azleg.gov/DocumentsForBill.asp?Bill_Number=SB1432...).
- jaredonline 14y ago
  Correct, it's only proposed.
- evandeaubl 14y ago
  Yep, nothing to do with the original bill. Arizona legislators have the ability to introduce "strike everything" amendments (first sentence of the amendment identifies this as what it is), which completely discard the text of an existing bill being considered and replace it with something else. This is usually done because (I believe) the process of replacing the text doesn't change where it is in the actual legislative process, allowing controversial bills to bypass parts of the process, or allowing legislators to reintroduce bills that were killed by previous votes. I'm glad I like living in Arizona for plenty of other reasons.
hanleybrand 14y ago
I can't help but think gender-less bathrooms are a better solution.
- hanleybrand 14y ago
  On the other hand - I'm not sure which problem AZ is solving here. Maybe enough women weren't calling the police saying "there's a man in the bathroom!"

8 points by jaredonline 14y ago

I am a transwoman who totally passes. My ID says F but my birth certificate says M. Now I want to stick said birth certificate into my purse and go to Arizona, and start pissing in the men's room everywhere I go. Ideally I should find a transman who nobody would ever read as a lady to hang out with and do the same. Also apparently Arizona has such a problem with transpeople casually using the proper bathroom that this amendment is an EMERGENCY.

NotUncivil 14y ago
>I want to stick said birth certificate into my purse and go to Arizona, and start pissing in the men's room everywhere I go. If you found a few more dumb gender laws like this to exploit and went around obeying their letter it could make for good material for a documentary (might not be the best example but think Religulous).
- snogglethorpe 14y ago
  > If you found a few more dumb gender laws like this to exploit and went around obeying their letter it could make for good material for a documentary "Road trip!" Maybe a bus! :]

Glyptodon 14y ago

It's proposed, not passed, no? It's also completely unrelated to the bill it's amending (http://www.azleg.gov/DocumentsForBill.asp?Bill_Number=SB1432&Session_ID=110 http://www.azleg.gov/DocumentsForBill.asp?Bill_Number=SB1432...).

jaredonline 14y ago
Correct, it's only proposed.
evandeaubl 14y ago
Yep, nothing to do with the original bill. Arizona legislators have the ability to introduce "strike everything" amendments (first sentence of the amendment identifies this as what it is), which completely discard the text of an existing bill being considered and replace it with something else. This is usually done because (I believe) the process of replacing the text doesn't change where it is in the actual legislative process, allowing controversial bills to bypass parts of the process, or allowing legislators to reintroduce bills that were killed by previous votes. I'm glad I like living in Arizona for plenty of other reasons.

hanleybrand 14y ago

I can't help but think gender-less bathrooms are a better solution.

hanleybrand 14y ago
On the other hand - I'm not sure which problem AZ is solving here. Maybe enough women weren't calling the police saying "there's a man in the bathroom!"