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That's a great point of view. Although I excluded money in my question, I am aware that that can only be done in a hypothetical world. I also agree that there a

by gqgy 19y ago

That's a great point of view. Although I excluded money in my question, I am aware that that can only be done in a hypothetical world. I also agree that there are different levels of success. I suppose it is very reasonable to view success as a process rather than an end. The various levels of success which you outline makes sense, however I was wondering whether there was a level beyound money (i.e. Level 7 in your outline) for other entrepreneurs. I have not yet reached a "Level 7" in my endeavors as an entrepreneur, but I have a feeling that it goes beyond "Level 7". I guess my suspicion comes from observing those that have already reached "success" in the start-up world. For example, why would PG still work after reaching the elusive "Level 7"/MONEY, why would Steve Jobs keep working, etc....

epi0Bauqu 19y ago
First I just want to point out that there are many different levels of being rich. I know PG said this in one of his essays somewhere, and I have said it on this forum too. And it is true. I know this isn't what you were asking in reply, but there are certainly different levels above Level 7 (in my original scheme) that are just higher levels of monetary attainment. And that is what motivates some people to go from say Level 7 to Level 7a, i.e. they see 1M vs 10M vs 50M or whatever as different levels. But if I understand your reply correctly, I think you are saying, what is beyond all those monetary levels? That is, assume you reach a monetary level that is enough for you financially, what is beyond that? (This is why I just stopped at Level 7 in my scheme btw.) Having achieved some degree of Level 7 myself, all I can say is that startups are what I like to do (at least for now). I want to start all over again and climb up the Levels because each level is rewarding to me its own right. A different project brings different users and solving different needs, and I guess I just like that. So in this scheme, I guess I think of it sort of as a reset for myself; not a circle exactly, but a new path. Other things beyond Level 7 are charity, prestige/celebrity, and doing things with bigger impact. Steve Jobs is obviously a celebrity, and I would assume he sees that as part of his success. PG seems to be in the bigger things category, hoping that YC will really change the world in a big way. Maybe he can jump in here and speak for himself though. I remember an article on here a while back (but can't find it right now) about what people do after exit events. It had these categories, but it was a little more thought out, if I recall correctly. Maybe someone can provide that link.

by gqgy 19y ago

epi0Bauqu 19y ago

First I just want to point out that there are many different levels of being rich. I know PG said this in one of his essays somewhere, and I have said it on this forum too. And it is true. I know this isn't what you were asking in reply, but there are certainly different levels above Level 7 (in my original scheme) that are just higher levels of monetary attainment. And that is what motivates some people to go from say Level 7 to Level 7a, i.e. they see 1M vs 10M vs 50M or whatever as different levels. But if I understand your reply correctly, I think you are saying, what is beyond all those monetary levels? That is, assume you reach a monetary level that is enough for you financially, what is beyond that? (This is why I just stopped at Level 7 in my scheme btw.) Having achieved some degree of Level 7 myself, all I can say is that startups are what I like to do (at least for now). I want to start all over again and climb up the Levels because each level is rewarding to me its own right. A different project brings different users and solving different needs, and I guess I just like that. So in this scheme, I guess I think of it sort of as a reset for myself; not a circle exactly, but a new path. Other things beyond Level 7 are charity, prestige/celebrity, and doing things with bigger impact. Steve Jobs is obviously a celebrity, and I would assume he sees that as part of his success. PG seems to be in the bigger things category, hoping that YC will really change the world in a big way. Maybe he can jump in here and speak for himself though. I remember an article on here a while back (but can't find it right now) about what people do after exit events. It had these categories, but it was a little more thought out, if I recall correctly. Maybe someone can provide that link.