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Yeah, no. Elon Musk should instead focus on fixing the Peaks that will make the Almighty Industrial Revolution look like a blip on the easel of the history of h

by krie 14y ago

Yeah, no. Elon Musk should instead focus on fixing the Peaks that will make the Almighty Industrial Revolution look like a blip on the easel of the history of history. Space travel, cars and the Internet has no future beyond the next 10~ years. Possibly shorter if the financial paradigm falls sooner. * Peak oil, gas, coal, phosphorous, rare earth metals, uranium, copper, iron und su weiter. Sorry Elon!

freehunter 14y ago
You do realize that most of the things on your list can be found in much more abundance in space, right? So getting us there is the first step.
- krie 14y ago
  No, because even if we got more of those (and fossil fuels, the most crucial component of our "prosperous" Western societies aren't available from the skies) we wouldn't solve the most conspicuous problem: growth. Billions will die in this century, world pop will plummet to ~ 0.5 billion and the Internet, cars and all such trivialities will vanish. The first step? Stopping the senseless notion we will ever get off this rock and implement a "reduce, reuse, recycle and do without" paradigm akin to world war 2 rationing, will be the first step.
  - freehunter 14y ago
    >fossil fuels Elon Musk is working on that. He also owns Solar City and Tesla Motors. >growth Colonizing space can solve that. Plenty more room and resources. >senseless notion we will ever get off this rock It's looking less and less senseless every day, in part due to Musk and his team.
    - krie 14y ago
      Batteries can't be an alternative because: 1) They need fossil fuels and finite minerals/metals to be manufactured and transported 2) The EROEI is way less The earth had plenty of room and resources before we "decided" (we didn't, we're humans, like yeast we try to consume everything in our path until the overshoot is apparent and we collapse) that 7-9 billion people and American 1000 gallon a year per capita lifestyles were viable. Haha, what folly.
  - hvs 14y ago
    The 70's called, they want their talking points back.
    - krie 14y ago
      Club of Rome tried to warn, but since we wanted growth, collapse is what "we" "deserve". Thanks former generations for not heeding the rational advice.

by krie 14y ago

freehunter 14y ago

You do realize that most of the things on your list can be found in much more abundance in space, right? So getting us there is the first step.

krie 14y ago
No, because even if we got more of those (and fossil fuels, the most crucial component of our "prosperous" Western societies aren't available from the skies) we wouldn't solve the most conspicuous problem: growth. Billions will die in this century, world pop will plummet to ~ 0.5 billion and the Internet, cars and all such trivialities will vanish. The first step? Stopping the senseless notion we will ever get off this rock and implement a "reduce, reuse, recycle and do without" paradigm akin to world war 2 rationing, will be the first step.
- freehunter 14y ago
  >fossil fuels Elon Musk is working on that. He also owns Solar City and Tesla Motors. >growth Colonizing space can solve that. Plenty more room and resources. >senseless notion we will ever get off this rock It's looking less and less senseless every day, in part due to Musk and his team.
  - krie 14y ago
    Batteries can't be an alternative because: 1) They need fossil fuels and finite minerals/metals to be manufactured and transported 2) The EROEI is way less The earth had plenty of room and resources before we "decided" (we didn't, we're humans, like yeast we try to consume everything in our path until the overshoot is apparent and we collapse) that 7-9 billion people and American 1000 gallon a year per capita lifestyles were viable. Haha, what folly.
- hvs 14y ago
  The 70's called, they want their talking points back.
  - krie 14y ago
    Club of Rome tried to warn, but since we wanted growth, collapse is what "we" "deserve". Thanks former generations for not heeding the rational advice.