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Interestingly, almost everyone posting to the Reddit thread got that it was a joke (http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/81s36/i_hate_lisp/ http://www.r

Interestingly, almost everyone posting to the Reddit thread got that it was a joke (http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/81s36/i_hate_lisp/ http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/81s36/i_hate_li...) but most people posting to HN took it seriously.

trapper 18y ago
Perhaps real hacker's spend less time here [ducks].
- rbanffy 18y ago
  HN works flawlessly in w3 under emacs.
dkarl 18y ago
I think Lispers like to pretend they are soooooooo smart and so baffled by the stupidity of (cough) "normal" people that they don't dare assume any lower bound on human intelligence. "You eat poop? Really? Ummm. Gosh. Welllllll, that's understandable. I... um... used to eat poop too! Before I learned about food. But if you give me a chance I think I can convince you of the merits of food. Let me tell you about my Road to Food!" (Yeah, I love Lisp and like HN; I just can't resist poking some fun.)
jonnytran 18y ago
Maybe for more people on HN, Lisp is part of their identity, so they get defensive.
- jrockway 18y ago
  I haven't noticed this. Most people here seem to be PHP "programmers", which I find hilarious. There is also a large Ruby contingent (whenever someone links their open source project, it's always Ruby.)
  - jonny_noog 18y ago
    You could have conveyed the same salient information without the elitist subtext.
    - jrockway 18y ago
      Probably, but I don't think I should try to hide my biases and personal opinions on social news sites.
      - jonny_noog 18y ago
        To me, there's a difference between having a bias or giving a personal opinion and intentionally insulting a group of people. But to you I guess there isn't. If you met someone face to face who happened to be a PHP programmer, would you let them know that ostensibly based solely on the language that they happen to be using at the time, you don't consider them a real programmer? I'm just saying man, it's a slippery slope and one that I actively try to avoid these days.
        jrockway 18y ago
        If you met someone face to face who happened to be a PHP programmer, would you let them know that ostensibly based solely on the language that they happen to be using at the time, you don't consider them a real programmer? Sure, why not.
        jonny_noog 18y ago
        Well, possibly because that's a textbook definition of bigotry right there, and I don't feel that bigotry is something we generally need more of. Even if it is - as I suspect in your case - something of an act. Happening across some of your other posts, you seem to be a person who likes to make sweeping generalisations in the hope of offending someone. I suspect that you're well aware of what you're doing and are doing it intentionally. So I'll wish you good luck with that and be on my way.
  - 18y ago
- k0n2acl 18y ago
  Without Lisp, I am nothing :)
mechanical_fish 18y ago
Perhaps the HN users who realized it was a fun tongue-in-cheek parable followed the rules by silently voting it up, instead of filling up the response page with posts that say, in so many words, "HAHAHA L0LZ". What is there to do with this besides chuckle and move on? I didn't come up with anything. I suppose I could destroy its life by publicly dissecting it. But, in the spirit of the original author, I would prefer to leave the interpretation of the story as an exercise for the student.

trapper 18y ago

Perhaps real hacker's spend less time here [ducks].

rbanffy 18y ago
HN works flawlessly in w3 under emacs.

dkarl 18y ago

I think Lispers like to pretend they are soooooooo smart and so baffled by the stupidity of (cough) "normal" people that they don't dare assume any lower bound on human intelligence. "You eat poop? Really? Ummm. Gosh. Welllllll, that's understandable. I... um... used to eat poop too! Before I learned about food. But if you give me a chance I think I can convince you of the merits of food. Let me tell you about my Road to Food!" (Yeah, I love Lisp and like HN; I just can't resist poking some fun.)

jonnytran 18y ago

Maybe for more people on HN, Lisp is part of their identity, so they get defensive.

jrockway 18y ago
I haven't noticed this. Most people here seem to be PHP "programmers", which I find hilarious. There is also a large Ruby contingent (whenever someone links their open source project, it's always Ruby.)
- jonny_noog 18y ago
  You could have conveyed the same salient information without the elitist subtext.
  - jrockway 18y ago
    Probably, but I don't think I should try to hide my biases and personal opinions on social news sites.
    - jonny_noog 18y ago
      To me, there's a difference between having a bias or giving a personal opinion and intentionally insulting a group of people. But to you I guess there isn't. If you met someone face to face who happened to be a PHP programmer, would you let them know that ostensibly based solely on the language that they happen to be using at the time, you don't consider them a real programmer? I'm just saying man, it's a slippery slope and one that I actively try to avoid these days.
      - jrockway 18y ago
        If you met someone face to face who happened to be a PHP programmer, would you let them know that ostensibly based solely on the language that they happen to be using at the time, you don't consider them a real programmer? Sure, why not.
        jonny_noog 18y ago
        Well, possibly because that's a textbook definition of bigotry right there, and I don't feel that bigotry is something we generally need more of. Even if it is - as I suspect in your case - something of an act. Happening across some of your other posts, you seem to be a person who likes to make sweeping generalisations in the hope of offending someone. I suspect that you're well aware of what you're doing and are doing it intentionally. So I'll wish you good luck with that and be on my way.
- 18y ago
k0n2acl 18y ago
Without Lisp, I am nothing :)

mechanical_fish 18y ago

Perhaps the HN users who realized it was a fun tongue-in-cheek parable followed the rules by silently voting it up, instead of filling up the response page with posts that say, in so many words, "HAHAHA L0LZ". What is there to do with this besides chuckle and move on? I didn't come up with anything. I suppose I could destroy its life by publicly dissecting it. But, in the spirit of the original author, I would prefer to leave the interpretation of the story as an exercise for the student.