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AI amplifies existing process. For people without sufficient clarity I imagine it amplifies that lack of clarity, which is where it is factually unproductive wh
by N_Lens 3d ago
AI amplifies existing process. For people without sufficient clarity I imagine it amplifies that lack of clarity, which is where it is factually unproductive while it still ‘seems’ to be productive (producing slop).
At the end of the day, LLMs are still tools.
- skydhash 3d ago> For people without sufficient clarity I imagine it amplifies that lack of clarity, which is where it is factually unproductive while it still ‘seem’ to be productive Convenient way of saying "you're holding it wrong".
- owebmaster 3d agoThen when asked for examples of what they built using AI, what they have to show is boring slop worse than "git cloning" a mature project.
- Daishiman 3d agoPeople who build good software with AI don't gloat about it being built with AI because it's not the most relevant part of it.
- N_Lens 3d agoYes, that's what I'm saying.
- mohamedkoubaa 3d agoI get flamed here whenever I say it's a skill issue, but it absolutely is. Not everyone has what it takes to be a successful CTO but that's the role you play if have 20 agents working on something you designed. I see you got downvoted too.
- skydhash 3d agoIt would be a skill issue if someone would show they’re able to use it to produce good software while showcasing that it’s due to their mastery. Till this day, I don’t think there’s any such demonstration. Any defects of the technology is always blamed on skill issue.
- Daishiman 3d agoThere's a ton of people out there in various unknown companies grinding away and managing a reasonable number of well-prompted, parallel agents with decent CI and deployment strategy making judicious use of human review. But that's boring and you can't build a YouTube audience around it.
- mohamedkoubaa 3d agoPeople who produce good software don't feel the need to show off how modern and agentic they are.
- anonzzzies 3d agoYeah, that gives me the scary feeling that especially here people are overvalueing themselves by a lot. They find AI counterproductive because they simply never were good at what they do before AI. This is always always my read of people who value talking, meetings and office time as important: I have never met people who have that and who are not sales or just plain suck at their job; AI amplifies that. Also with salespeople who now send me presentations that just have a bucket loads of hallucinations in them: turns out they never read them but had interns write most of them: now they still cannot read and AI generated stuff looks plausible. I only have anecdotal experiences but this sure seems to resonate for the AI negativity around here. I could be wrong but it's so far removed from our experiences. LLMs are just tools indeed.
- shjshshshs 3d agoYou don’t value “talk”? I understand. I have a lot of those around me and they are super productive, all day, alone, in their little cubicles. Oblivious to everything around them. I don’t know what to say to those types anymore. Live and let live I guess.. or in this case, not live I suppose.
- anonzzzies 3d agoIt usually is more like; I send an email or so which contains enough details to understand whatever we are doing. A person in that list sends it to 20 people. The next email is a zoom invite with 30 people of 1.5 hours to ‘go over the email together’. If these people have no influence, good or bad over the outcome, why would I waste this time while it usually just says they were too lazy or incompetent to read the email? Useful talk and meetings all day is fine, but these are just to write busy/billable hours for all these useless folk with no value for the project. And socially I like listening and talking, just not for this.