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> Have you been schooled in farming? Raising livestock? Milking cattle? Does your ability to cook good food ... Pushing that analogy, AI is the equivalent of a
by sriram_malhar 6d ago
> Have you been schooled in farming? Raising livestock? Milking cattle? Does your ability to cook good food ...
Pushing that analogy, AI is the equivalent of automating everything from tilling, growing, all the way to cooking. It is as if the human is involved at the beginning in specifying what they want, and at the end, in plating up the food and consuming the product. The next generation will have no clue about the entire farm-to-table chain.
It's not there yet, but rapidly making it a reality.
Also, there is no one "tech". Different pieces of technology have different levels of effect on the world, and different timelines in which the world can come to terms with it. AI is the thermonuclear weapon introduced to a musket world ... it came upon us suddenly, and instantly flattened the talent/merit based economy. Now everyone has access to the same exoskeleton; the difference between muscles is not important.
The second huge difference between AI (and ordinary tech) is that a literal handful of people are in control of its economics. That kind of power breeds fascism.
> That's a problem with society, not technology.
Semantics. The tech directly enables the incredible power imbalance, and helps seize the means of consensus and debate and reporting. There is no incentive/mechanism left to fix society. An advanced society like the US is weaponized against vaccines, and social media and AI are to blame.
- Razengan 6d ago> That kind of power breeds fascism. uhmmm and what have y'all been doing to prevent fascism and wealth inequality up until the point -before- AI became a thing? What did you do about the mandatory government IDs required to access the internet? What did you do to reduce police brutality and unaccountability in the USA? AI is the ONE thing that COULD give the common peasantry a chance. ..maybe that's why so many fires are being stoked against it.. *thinking emoji*
- sriram_malhar 6d agoYou do realize that the same powers that have bred fascism and mandatory id requirement are hand in glove with the AI oligarchs, no? They gain with rampant use of AI disproportionately more than the peasant. The peasantry stands no chance. Unless there is a French Revolution style uprising
- Razengan 6d ago> Unless there is a French Revolution style uprising Yeah civilians are not going to win with weapons anymore. The imbalance there has been ridiculously disproportionate for decades. But the common peon can use AI to look up laws and rights and other information and shit to see what we CAN still do. USE it before they take that away too.
- sriram_malhar 5d agoYou can look up laws all night long. Check out all the laws broken by Potus, ICE (just to name a few) on a daily basis. The peasantry is not on the side that enforces the law. AI is. AI is a force multiplier. The more force you have, the more multiples of it you en up with. Flock uses AI to do surveillance at scale. Every cloud service has NSA backdoors.
- Razengan 5d agoSo we stop AI, uninvent it, what then? We go back to how it was before AI And everyone will have a better life? Let's hear your plan
- sriram_malhar 5d agoIt isn't just AI. I would like a world without the poison of social media, without guns & bombs, without dangerous chemicals. Yes, in many many ways we'd be better off. We are accelerating the destruction of our planet. I don't have a better plan for humanity. I only have fear.
- Razengan 5d ago> a world without the poison of social media No radio, no newspapers, no town criers, no gossip at the alewife's house? > I don't have a better plan for humanity. I only have fear. So your best move is to go around spreading that fear without offering ways to fix shit or inspiring anyone else to do so?