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> To everyone who believes that this is some nefarious plot by CEOs to bring about regulation or to hide that they've hit a wall or whatever It's this but also

> To everyone who believes that this is some nefarious plot by CEOs to bring about regulation or to hide that they've hit a wall or whatever It's this but also much more that those insiders just want to pump the value of their stocks by making it seem like the unreleased models are much stronger than they actually are. OpenAI said GPT-2 was too powerful to release, Antropic said Mythos was too powerful to release. Both are GA now and everyone has long realized those supposed fears were just lies.

embedding-shape 4d ago
> OpenAI said GPT-2 was too powerful to release, Antropic said Mythos was too powerful to release. Both are GA now and everyone has long realized those supposed fears were just lies. Is it possible they weren't "lies" but they were still "wrong" yet still they felt they were possibly too powerful to release? It's like there is two modes "Right and truthful and honest" or "Wrong, liar and dishonest" and there is never any nuance or understanding that people can be truthful yet wrong.
- iLoveOncall 4d ago
  No it's not possible. Scam Altman is a serial liar, even long before his OpenAI days.
bananaflag 4d ago
> OpenAI said GPT-2 was too powerful to release Because they thought such a text-generating machine will bring about a golden age of fake news. Seven years later I have relatives who send me every day some long-winded AI-generated bullshit. And I have seen with my own eyes how this sort of thing influences elections. > Antropic said Mythos was too powerful to release. Both are GA now Mythos was too powerful to release, hence it is not GA now. They released Fable, which is Mythos plus guardrails.
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- tpm 4d ago
  > Seven years later I have relatives who send me every day some long-winded AI-generated bullshit. So not releasing the weights at that time didn't make the world safer, but did help to transform OpenAI into a commercial entity. Why should we trust them now?
- iLoveOncall 3d ago
  Oh ok I assumed Mythos was GA because I have access to it in Amazon despite not being in a security role at all. I guess it's just pay (enough) to play. Anyway, Fable is supposedly as good (if not better) in programming and it's very far from the paradigm shift that was promised.

embedding-shape 4d ago

> OpenAI said GPT-2 was too powerful to release, Antropic said Mythos was too powerful to release. Both are GA now and everyone has long realized those supposed fears were just lies. Is it possible they weren't "lies" but they were still "wrong" yet still they felt they were possibly too powerful to release? It's like there is two modes "Right and truthful and honest" or "Wrong, liar and dishonest" and there is never any nuance or understanding that people can be truthful yet wrong.

iLoveOncall 4d ago
No it's not possible. Scam Altman is a serial liar, even long before his OpenAI days.

bananaflag 4d ago

> OpenAI said GPT-2 was too powerful to release Because they thought such a text-generating machine will bring about a golden age of fake news. Seven years later I have relatives who send me every day some long-winded AI-generated bullshit. And I have seen with my own eyes how this sort of thing influences elections. > Antropic said Mythos was too powerful to release. Both are GA now Mythos was too powerful to release, hence it is not GA now. They released Fable, which is Mythos plus guardrails.

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tpm 4d ago
> Seven years later I have relatives who send me every day some long-winded AI-generated bullshit. So not releasing the weights at that time didn't make the world safer, but did help to transform OpenAI into a commercial entity. Why should we trust them now?
iLoveOncall 3d ago
Oh ok I assumed Mythos was GA because I have access to it in Amazon despite not being in a security role at all. I guess it's just pay (enough) to play. Anyway, Fable is supposedly as good (if not better) in programming and it's very far from the paradigm shift that was promised.