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Enough with the knee jerk reactions. They have to record in some cases. You don't have to like those features, but plenty of people want those features. - The

Enough with the knee jerk reactions. They have to record in some cases. You don't have to like those features, but plenty of people want those features. - The television has voice control. - The television has a manually triggered speech-to-text feature so you don't have to type with tv remote.

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GrinningFool 4d ago
You'd think if that was all they recorded for, they would be saying it very loudly to end the speculation that weasel-wording leads to.
- anon48293 3d ago
  But they did say that? "LG TVs process voice data only when the voice button on the remote control is pressed and held, or when a wake word such as 'Hi LG' is recognized after the user has activated the Far-Field voice recognition feature."
matheusmoreira 4d ago
> Enough with the knee jerk reactions. No. Stop minimizing their abuse.
hananova 4d ago
You simply do not say something like “we don’t record continuously” if the reality is that you only record when voice control or speech to text is active. Given the entire industry’s track record, the only sane thing to do when confronted with weasel wording is to assume the truth is the worst possible interpretation that isn’t a blatant lie, and even then, sometimes it is just a blatant lie. Here’s some examples: - We don’t record continuously -> We record nearly all the time, only stopping to upload the recording. - We do not sell your data -> But we do “share” it. - All your data is protected from unauthorized LLM scraping -> But we define all the big tech companies as authorized scraping.
- 1000100_1000101 3d ago
  > We do not sell your data -> But we do “share” it. Likely true that it's not sold. They want to retain ownership. Like all modern items, they LICENSE your data to others.
beached_whale 4d ago
None of that requires recording and has been done with embedded hw with local software for years.
laylower 4d ago
Enough with the corporate shilling. Go back to your manufacturer for a factory reset
qwytw 4d ago
Find one person who when asked if you they want the useful feature of LG always recording everything they watch on their TVs and selling that data to third parties without giving anything in return would answer yes. I get the voice commands but it shouldn't be possible for them to always record everything anyone in the vicinity says without explicitly activating the command (and it should be impossible to hack it, i.e. it should be implemented in hardware not buggy software)
NotLemikiy 4d ago
Recording is not the same as listening

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GrinningFool 4d ago

You'd think if that was all they recorded for, they would be saying it very loudly to end the speculation that weasel-wording leads to.

anon48293 3d ago
But they did say that? "LG TVs process voice data only when the voice button on the remote control is pressed and held, or when a wake word such as 'Hi LG' is recognized after the user has activated the Far-Field voice recognition feature."

matheusmoreira 4d ago

> Enough with the knee jerk reactions. No. Stop minimizing their abuse.

hananova 4d ago

You simply do not say something like “we don’t record continuously” if the reality is that you only record when voice control or speech to text is active. Given the entire industry’s track record, the only sane thing to do when confronted with weasel wording is to assume the truth is the worst possible interpretation that isn’t a blatant lie, and even then, sometimes it is just a blatant lie. Here’s some examples: - We don’t record continuously -> We record nearly all the time, only stopping to upload the recording. - We do not sell your data -> But we do “share” it. - All your data is protected from unauthorized LLM scraping -> But we define all the big tech companies as authorized scraping.

1000100_1000101 3d ago
> We do not sell your data -> But we do “share” it. Likely true that it's not sold. They want to retain ownership. Like all modern items, they LICENSE your data to others.

beached_whale 4d ago

None of that requires recording and has been done with embedded hw with local software for years.

laylower 4d ago

Enough with the corporate shilling. Go back to your manufacturer for a factory reset

qwytw 4d ago

Find one person who when asked if you they want the useful feature of LG always recording everything they watch on their TVs and selling that data to third parties without giving anything in return would answer yes. I get the voice commands but it shouldn't be possible for them to always record everything anyone in the vicinity says without explicitly activating the command (and it should be impossible to hack it, i.e. it should be implemented in hardware not buggy software)

NotLemikiy 4d ago

Recording is not the same as listening