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The reason for this is, I guess, all too familiar for anyone in a creative field: surprise, it’s generative AI. The ongoing devaluation of the work of artists a

The reason for this is, I guess, all too familiar for anyone in a creative field: surprise, it’s generative AI. The ongoing devaluation of the work of artists and makers, chewed up and regurgitated back to us like a mother feeding a baby bird with a subscription model. I have some hope for my friends in other artistic fields; AI art is shit, kind of by definition anti-art, embarrassing to look at and cringe-inducing to be associated with. I'm so f*cking tired of this wrong opinion and the Reality Distortion Field that's been set up to force people to pretend that it's true. Traditional art is still valued. Good AI art takes time and effort and taste and usually some amount of traditional skills. And even some bad AI art is actually a good idea that needs a few talented friends to make happen traditionally - but no one would ever see the vision without the terrible AI rough draft. There is room for all of it, and I'm sick of having to skulk around in the shadows with the things I've made for fear of tripping some Shrill Cancel Protocol. And if you're worried about your traditional art job, organize; the people who want to replace you with AI will replace you with cheap outsourced labor instead, if you let them. AI isn't the problem.

tejohnso 4d ago
I don't think his assertion is true at all. AI art can be quite good. I asked ChatGPT to make a painting that looks like it should be in a museum and the output was damn good. I couldn't find anything that would tip me off like I can with some AI writing. No idea how something like that would be embarrassing to look at. And music. There are youtube channels for AI house music playlists that sound pretty damn good. I guess if you're a high level art critic you might be able to easily see that some of this stuff is not good.
johnnyanmac 4d ago
>Good AI art takes time and effort and taste and usually some amount of traditional skills. Sure. But I think it's more than safe to say, that the rotten barrel of rotten apples easily makes the 1-2 "high effort AI art" apples rotten as well. If the entire internet wasn't flooded with slop, it'd be harder to argue that AI is a slop generator. But well... the proof is in the pudding. >There is room for all of it The flood of slop begs to differ. I'm used to needing to wade through lakes of horrible low quality crap to find gems I seek. But the friction needed is immense. If that kind of effort is needed to traverse social media, the reaction will not be tame. >I'm sick of having to skulk around in the shadows with the things I've made for fear of tripping some Shrill Cancel Protocol. Then you should be as angry at the slop generators as the anti-AI crowd. You're affected by it too, after all. >And if you're worried about your traditional art job, organize That is the only shining light as of late. Lot more news of game studios actually unionizing. Better late than never. >AI isn't the problem. Nope, not primarily. It's who wields them and stands to beneit. Which of course is the wealthy owners. It's always the wealthy owners.

tejohnso 4d ago

I don't think his assertion is true at all. AI art can be quite good. I asked ChatGPT to make a painting that looks like it should be in a museum and the output was damn good. I couldn't find anything that would tip me off like I can with some AI writing. No idea how something like that would be embarrassing to look at. And music. There are youtube channels for AI house music playlists that sound pretty damn good. I guess if you're a high level art critic you might be able to easily see that some of this stuff is not good.

johnnyanmac 4d ago

>Good AI art takes time and effort and taste and usually some amount of traditional skills. Sure. But I think it's more than safe to say, that the rotten barrel of rotten apples easily makes the 1-2 "high effort AI art" apples rotten as well. If the entire internet wasn't flooded with slop, it'd be harder to argue that AI is a slop generator. But well... the proof is in the pudding. >There is room for all of it The flood of slop begs to differ. I'm used to needing to wade through lakes of horrible low quality crap to find gems I seek. But the friction needed is immense. If that kind of effort is needed to traverse social media, the reaction will not be tame. >I'm sick of having to skulk around in the shadows with the things I've made for fear of tripping some Shrill Cancel Protocol. Then you should be as angry at the slop generators as the anti-AI crowd. You're affected by it too, after all. >And if you're worried about your traditional art job, organize That is the only shining light as of late. Lot more news of game studios actually unionizing. Better late than never. >AI isn't the problem. Nope, not primarily. It's who wields them and stands to beneit. Which of course is the wealthy owners. It's always the wealthy owners.