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It reminds me of Frédéric Bastiat's Candle Makers' Petition. It satirised protectionism in the 1800s: >We candlemakers are suffering from the unfair competitio
by tim333 4d ago
It reminds me of Frédéric Bastiat's Candle Makers' Petition. It satirised protectionism in the 1800s:
>We candlemakers are suffering from the unfair competition of a foreign rival. This foreign manufacturer of light has such an advantage over us that he floods our domestic markets with his product. And he offers it at a fantastically low price. The moment this foreigner appears in our country, all our customers desert us and turn to him. As a result, an entire domestic industry is rendered completely stagnant. And even more, since the lighting industry has countless ramifications with other native industries, they, too, are injured. This foreign manufacturer who competes against us without mercy is none other than the sun itself!
>Here is our petition: Please pass a law ordering the closing of all windows, skylights, shutters, curtains, and blinds... https://fee.org/articles/the-candlemakers-petition/ https://fee.org/articles/the-candlemakers-petition/
- omnicognate 4d agoNot even vaguely related to the point being made in the statement.
- robotpepi 4d agoagree. so many people missing the point. I don't think they even bothered to read the letter.
- bonoboTP 4d agoI've read it. It's all a kind of navel gazing, all about internal academia dynamics. They should put much more effort into justifying why the public should still fund them. I'm not saying there can be no good reason, but they have to make the case and can't expect that the taxpayer also cares about intra-academic dynamics.
- MelonUsk 4d agoThis is a straw men argument The petition is about a much broader problem: if we’ll demotivate people from understanding math, vibe math in a rush without making it understandable - math becomes useless Basically with pic generation at least we all understand what is on a pic - some cat or something With math it is trivial to generate a lot of stuff that is half-assed and just gives a plain yes/no but doesn’t get absorbed into human technology and better math Basically it is not inly about the answer 42, it is about the questions, _meaningful_ _full_ answers and empowering people By giving a short answer AI can burn the find and make it boring, hide the fertile ground around that answer that any human would’ve highlighted If you have Einstein - it is not just relativity he did - you can continue asking him questions and he continues the research direction, teaches students, etc With AI it is often 100% gate keeped (most of the time experimental AIs do the stuff, you have no access even for 200 bucks/month or more) slave that was killed after finishing - hard to “compete” with that and it is not very inspiring approach to researchers ;-)
- tim333 4d agoFair enough - maybe I didn't fully read the statement. Though you can ask AI questions about how things worked sometimes. Like here's me asking the google one how you derive E=mc2 https://share.google/aimode/dtHKAO9Nr0EYWq7JE https://share.google/aimode/dtHKAO9Nr0EYWq7JE It answered about the Navier Stokes too but not at a very deep level https://share.google/aimode/JD69g15GIQiYo9L65 https://share.google/aimode/JD69g15GIQiYo9L65
- erichocean 4d ago> vibe math Ah yes, Lean 4. Famous for how unreliable it is. Absolute slop!