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I like it. It’s relevant and current technology.

by andrewstuart 5d ago

cromka 5d ago
Are the Lenovo and Braxx examples I provided not relevant nor current?
- StrLght 5d ago
  I don't think they are, and given amount of votes on each — seems like so does the community. Regarding Lenovo: it's the first laptop with AirJet, sure, but it's not the first computer in general. Zotac released a mini PC with the very same AirJet in 2023. It looks dope, but it's just not that interesting or new. Regarding Brax: Braxman is a well-known scammer. The world would be a better place if nobody paid any attention to this person.
  - cromka 5d ago
    > not that interesting or new. Its parameters are! That's the whole point! 830g with regular 30W TDP Lunar Lake is impressive. > Braxman is a well-known scammer Which is interesting as I didn't know that and seems like you're right. Still warrants some discussion around those products and even some ad-hominem?
- ofrzeta 5d ago
  Lenovo is just vaporware currently as was their laptop with translucent display. YMMV but I no longer waste my time with things that are not available (and may never be). The Lenovo page that is linked from the page you posted is super light on details and just fluffy marketing. Doing some research on "AirJet solid-state cooling" turns up products that have been announced at CES 2023. More info may be found at the Frore Systems homepage. Funy enough Airjets seems to be used in some NVidia systems such as Jetson Orin. I don't want to shill Apple but my Macbook Air with M4 performs great and never runs the fan (does it have one, I don't know), so the Airjet thing (for me) is pretty much a solution in search of a problem.
  - cromka 5d ago
    > never runs the fan (does it have one, I don't know) > so the Airjet thing (for me) is pretty much a solution in search of a problem. That's it? Fan is about noise and nothing else? The much lower volume/dissipation and weight/dissipation ratios, which made this Lenovo latop 830g, which easily allows for some 200-300g of extra battery is a solution in search of a problem? Sorry, if you don't see this then we have nothing to discuss.
    - pixl97 5d ago
      We get it, your interests aren't the same as others. The problem here is you want your vote to count more than others because your interests are super important and everything, but that's not how upvote based sites on general tech topics work.
      - cromka 5d ago
        > The problem here is you want your vote to count more That's just your projection.
        pixl97 5d ago
        I see a recurring pattern here.
    - ofrzeta 5d ago
      Ironically "Project AeroBlade and Project Swan proof-of-concepts explore the future of AI-powered business computing" but anyway I just read this when I re-visited the Lenovo site to learn more about that prototype with respect to the CPU it is using. I could not find anything, though. My point is that maybe it's better to develop CPUs with less power consumption than to invent new cooling techniques (hence "solution in search of a problem"). This is what Apple silicon does.
      - cromka 5d ago
        > My point is that maybe it's better to develop CPUs with less power consumption than to invent new cooling techniques And why not both? Because that's exactly what's happening. Vapor chambers? Heatsinks before that?
- dahdum 5d ago
  The Brax example you posted was a YouTube link, which is an instant skip for me. Personally, no phone with dated tech is going to interest me. Their WallUp looks interesting but there’s no product just a waitlist and an animation. I already have TRMNL displays around my home, so I’m in their market. For Lenovo, their Yoga was interesting ~15 years ago but Aeroblade is just a proof of concept, and thinner laptops in general are irrelevant to me. I use a powerful laptop and a tablet, not a compromise between them.

I like it. It’s relevant and current technology.

cromka 5d ago

Are the Lenovo and Braxx examples I provided not relevant nor current?

StrLght 5d ago
I don't think they are, and given amount of votes on each — seems like so does the community. Regarding Lenovo: it's the first laptop with AirJet, sure, but it's not the first computer in general. Zotac released a mini PC with the very same AirJet in 2023. It looks dope, but it's just not that interesting or new. Regarding Brax: Braxman is a well-known scammer. The world would be a better place if nobody paid any attention to this person.
- cromka 5d ago
  > not that interesting or new. Its parameters are! That's the whole point! 830g with regular 30W TDP Lunar Lake is impressive. > Braxman is a well-known scammer Which is interesting as I didn't know that and seems like you're right. Still warrants some discussion around those products and even some ad-hominem?
ofrzeta 5d ago
Lenovo is just vaporware currently as was their laptop with translucent display. YMMV but I no longer waste my time with things that are not available (and may never be). The Lenovo page that is linked from the page you posted is super light on details and just fluffy marketing. Doing some research on "AirJet solid-state cooling" turns up products that have been announced at CES 2023. More info may be found at the Frore Systems homepage. Funy enough Airjets seems to be used in some NVidia systems such as Jetson Orin. I don't want to shill Apple but my Macbook Air with M4 performs great and never runs the fan (does it have one, I don't know), so the Airjet thing (for me) is pretty much a solution in search of a problem.
- cromka 5d ago
  > never runs the fan (does it have one, I don't know) > so the Airjet thing (for me) is pretty much a solution in search of a problem. That's it? Fan is about noise and nothing else? The much lower volume/dissipation and weight/dissipation ratios, which made this Lenovo latop 830g, which easily allows for some 200-300g of extra battery is a solution in search of a problem? Sorry, if you don't see this then we have nothing to discuss.
  - pixl97 5d ago
    We get it, your interests aren't the same as others. The problem here is you want your vote to count more than others because your interests are super important and everything, but that's not how upvote based sites on general tech topics work.
    - cromka 5d ago
      > The problem here is you want your vote to count more That's just your projection.
      - pixl97 5d ago
        I see a recurring pattern here.
  - ofrzeta 5d ago
    Ironically "Project AeroBlade and Project Swan proof-of-concepts explore the future of AI-powered business computing" but anyway I just read this when I re-visited the Lenovo site to learn more about that prototype with respect to the CPU it is using. I could not find anything, though. My point is that maybe it's better to develop CPUs with less power consumption than to invent new cooling techniques (hence "solution in search of a problem"). This is what Apple silicon does.
    - cromka 5d ago
      > My point is that maybe it's better to develop CPUs with less power consumption than to invent new cooling techniques And why not both? Because that's exactly what's happening. Vapor chambers? Heatsinks before that?
dahdum 5d ago
The Brax example you posted was a YouTube link, which is an instant skip for me. Personally, no phone with dated tech is going to interest me. Their WallUp looks interesting but there’s no product just a waitlist and an animation. I already have TRMNL displays around my home, so I’m in their market. For Lenovo, their Yoga was interesting ~15 years ago but Aeroblade is just a proof of concept, and thinner laptops in general are irrelevant to me. I use a powerful laptop and a tablet, not a compromise between them.