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There is absolutely nothing ethically wrong with other models using GPT and Claude for training. Heck, GPT-Sol even helped train GPT-Luna. There also is nothin
by OutOfHere 6d ago
There is absolutely nothing ethically wrong with other models using GPT and Claude for training. Heck, GPT-Sol even helped train GPT-Luna.
There also is nothing wrong with using customer data for training, since millions if not billions of other users benefit from it. Again, even the big players recognize its relevance and do it.
- nojito 6d agoThey are using stolen api keys and credentials.
- nickthegreek 6d agoI haven't seen evidence of this. Care to link?
- nojito 6d agoit's in the actual report. https://www.anthropic.com/threat-intelligence-report-september-2026 https://www.anthropic.com/threat-intelligence-report-septemb... >In one instance, over a ten-day period, Moonshot relayed almost 300,000 customer requests to Anthropic, the vast majority of which were routed to Opus. Moonshot used a proxy service network of 5,380 fraudulent accounts, most of which appeared to be located in Singapore and Japan.
- loldidntwork 6d agoNo one cares
- sejje 6d agoThat says fraudulent, not stolen. That means they made up the names, basically.
- villish 5d ago> these proxy services create thousands of new accounts using false identities, fake or stolen credit cards, and stolen API keys. They will often use stolen API credentials belonging to legitimate companies or individuals to give unauthorized entities access to US frontier models.
- OutOfHere 5d agoIt is a direct result of restricting access to these models. Access to them should never have been restricted. The restriction leaves users with no choice but to use unusual means to obtain access. We have completely forgotten what free trade means and why it is optimal, and we will pay the price for it.
- villish 5d agoUnusual means? It’s illegal to steal accounts and credit cards. Completely sanctioned by PRC. No other country can compete since they must follow the law, hence mistral not even trying anymore.
- OutOfHere 6d agoThey probably have no choice because they're not allowed to pay for its use. If they were allowed to pay for a Claude or Codex subscription, they probably would. Also, it is essential for the model's responses to be without censorship. In reality, responses sent to China by flagship models are known to be weaker.
- mrngld 6d ago[flagged]
- neuroticnews25 6d agoViolating terms of use is not illegal.