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What's your definition of "involution" here? I looked it up, but I don't understand how it relates to lying flat.
by AnimalMuppet 5d ago
What's your definition of "involution" here? I looked it up, but I don't understand how it relates to lying flat.
- matheusmoreira 5d ago[dead]
- VladStanimir 5d agoInvolution in the context of China laying flat means you work harder and harder only to stay in place with no chance of getting ahead. In China they work 12h day 6 day a week and still have 0 change to buy a home, start a family, etc. The lying flat movement is about giving up on the rat race and working just enough to get by because going above and beyond only get you working yourself to death for no tangible benefit.
- 1d22a 5d ago> I’m more and more convinced that all of AI engineering is Neijuan (内卷, meaning curl inwards). In China it describes a system that demands ever more effort and competition without improving output. The way in which it sometimes shows up in the West is the 996 nonsense. The English term for Neijuan is “Involution” from the book Agricultural Involution. Agricultural involution describes the intensification of farming that raises productivity per square meter while leaving productivity per head unchanged. Discussed earlier today here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49654229 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49654229