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> ... people who reject AI related stuff is just scared under the hood. They fight against AI because of the fear ... Oh yes, buddy, those stupid people should

> ... people who reject AI related stuff is just scared under the hood. They fight against AI because of the fear ... Oh yes, buddy, those stupid people should better act out of love, not fear, right? > There is no going back though. Adapt. “He who would live must fight, and he who does not want to fight in this world, where permanent struggle is the law of life, has no right to exist.” - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925.

adamtaylor_13 6d ago
Dude said "Adapt" and you really pulled out Hitler. Oi. Discussion on this site gets more difficult each day. Instead of pointing out where you disagreed you just pulled out the most egregious appeal to authority and said, "oH yEaH?"
- wartywhoa23 6d ago
  Pointing it out for you: the inescapable "X is here, adapt" is absolutely fascist in its nature. It's as if all man-made change was placed in the same ballpark as tectonic movements and extinction events - as a blind force of nature. Humans are given intelligence not only to construct things, but also not to construct things that better be not, FFS.
  - adamtaylor_13 6d ago
    I can't help but notice that for certain people with a particular anger against society, everything they disagree with is fascist in nature. If Mao had said it, it would've been "absolutely communist", if Washington had said it, it would've been "absolutely Patriotic".
    - Planktonne 6d ago
      I don't think that's a reasonable read; you can't dismiss a specific criticism on the (unsupported) ground that the person making it would totally have dismissed anything at all.
      - adamtaylor_13 5d ago
        wartywhoa expresses an opinion that I find intellectually lazy and spiritually prideful. Refusing to engage with an idea because it was dimly echoed in a statement made by an evil man is just intellectually lazy. It's a spectacular bit of pride in oneself to try to silence someone's opinion because you found an abstractly-similar statement made by an evil man. Why probe the idea when you could just assign Hitler's evil intentions directly to them? It's gross. It's tired. I wish people cared more to engage in good faith.
        Planktonne 5d ago
        You're engaging in worse faith; dismissing all criticism because it draws a parallel you don't like isn't reasonable. Sometimes, it will be fascism. "It's never fascism" is not a good heuristic.
        adamtaylor_13 5d ago
        Re-read what I said, specifically, I'm addressing the reflexive hand-wave of fascism as an all-too-common way to suppress thoughts we find distasteful rather than actually engaging. That's what wartywhoa did to a commenter who was in no way suggesting a fascist view. That's not worse faith, that's simply pointing out that aligning your ideological opponents with Hitler is intellectually dishonest. In this you and I agree: "dismissing all criticism because it draws a parallel you don't like isn't reasonable."
        Planktonne 5d ago
        There's nothing more thought-suppressing than dismissing all equation to fascism as thought suppression. If we actually agreed on the principle, you wouldn't be engaging in the behaviour.
- wartywhoa23 5d ago
  Should I have read this another comment of yours first, > I'm also making like 10x as much revenue as I did I'd not even bother to reply to someone who has all the skin in the AI game to perceive every criticism of it as a personal attack on one's wealth. Don't forget to turn all your revenues into real estate before the bubble explodes.
  - adamtaylor_13 5d ago
    > I'd not even bother to reply Yes, you've shown yourself quite ambivalent to any notion of truth. You'd just as soon call someone Hitler and be on with it rather than try to understand another human's perspective. Pat yourself on the back, friend.

adamtaylor_13 6d ago

Dude said "Adapt" and you really pulled out Hitler. Oi. Discussion on this site gets more difficult each day. Instead of pointing out where you disagreed you just pulled out the most egregious appeal to authority and said, "oH yEaH?"

wartywhoa23 6d ago
Pointing it out for you: the inescapable "X is here, adapt" is absolutely fascist in its nature. It's as if all man-made change was placed in the same ballpark as tectonic movements and extinction events - as a blind force of nature. Humans are given intelligence not only to construct things, but also not to construct things that better be not, FFS.
- adamtaylor_13 6d ago
  I can't help but notice that for certain people with a particular anger against society, everything they disagree with is fascist in nature. If Mao had said it, it would've been "absolutely communist", if Washington had said it, it would've been "absolutely Patriotic".
  - Planktonne 6d ago
    I don't think that's a reasonable read; you can't dismiss a specific criticism on the (unsupported) ground that the person making it would totally have dismissed anything at all.
    - adamtaylor_13 5d ago
      wartywhoa expresses an opinion that I find intellectually lazy and spiritually prideful. Refusing to engage with an idea because it was dimly echoed in a statement made by an evil man is just intellectually lazy. It's a spectacular bit of pride in oneself to try to silence someone's opinion because you found an abstractly-similar statement made by an evil man. Why probe the idea when you could just assign Hitler's evil intentions directly to them? It's gross. It's tired. I wish people cared more to engage in good faith.
      - Planktonne 5d ago
        You're engaging in worse faith; dismissing all criticism because it draws a parallel you don't like isn't reasonable. Sometimes, it will be fascism. "It's never fascism" is not a good heuristic.
        adamtaylor_13 5d ago
        Re-read what I said, specifically, I'm addressing the reflexive hand-wave of fascism as an all-too-common way to suppress thoughts we find distasteful rather than actually engaging. That's what wartywhoa did to a commenter who was in no way suggesting a fascist view. That's not worse faith, that's simply pointing out that aligning your ideological opponents with Hitler is intellectually dishonest. In this you and I agree: "dismissing all criticism because it draws a parallel you don't like isn't reasonable."
        Planktonne 5d ago
        There's nothing more thought-suppressing than dismissing all equation to fascism as thought suppression. If we actually agreed on the principle, you wouldn't be engaging in the behaviour.
wartywhoa23 5d ago
Should I have read this another comment of yours first, > I'm also making like 10x as much revenue as I did I'd not even bother to reply to someone who has all the skin in the AI game to perceive every criticism of it as a personal attack on one's wealth. Don't forget to turn all your revenues into real estate before the bubble explodes.
- adamtaylor_13 5d ago
  > I'd not even bother to reply Yes, you've shown yourself quite ambivalent to any notion of truth. You'd just as soon call someone Hitler and be on with it rather than try to understand another human's perspective. Pat yourself on the back, friend.