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I guess i'll give a super-unpopular take. Listening to developers complain about AI doing things to their life and the world at large when they have spent the

I guess i'll give a super-unpopular take. Listening to developers complain about AI doing things to their life and the world at large when they have spent the past 30 years automating just about everyone else they could out of a job (Since this has been one of the primary uses of software) is ... something else. It sounds like a a a mix of hubris, arrogance, cognitive dissonance, ignorance, etc. Only when it started to affect their world did any developers start to care, and even then nobody seems to ever stop and say "hey what were we doing the past 30 years, maybe we should think about this", it's instead "hey look at what these other people are doing with AI, someone should think about this". It feels like, to paraphrase a movie quote - "Nobody gets to destroy jobs and the the world but us"

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fpauser 5d ago
Good argument. In the end we are all ignorant opportunists.
- alansaber 5d ago
  And how could we not be? The world is unfathomably big and complex, and each of us wants their own narrative (well that, and to economically support loved ones, etc...)
joenada 5d ago
The difference is that automated tasks are (or should be) deterministic and reproducible, and taking up time devs could be using to do their actual job (writing code, solving technical problems, etc).
keiferski 5d ago
Yup. If current-gen AIs were capable of writing articles, but not code, then devs wouldn't care at all. None of these articles would exist, and some new variation of "learn to code" would be the snarky reply to nay-sayers. In fact, we already pretty much have proof of this: devs didn't care when software destroyed the journalism industry twenty years ago. Turns out that people ultimately only care when their only jobs are on the line.
- NateEag 5d ago
  I'm a professional software developer. I would care if even these machines could only write articles, and I cared when software destroyed multiple forms of media delivery. I won't say it was all bad, unequivocally, but it made me sad and I tried to think of solutions. Turns out, alas, that make people are willing to trade away freedom, independence, privacy, and a functioning culture to save a few bucks and get dopamine hits on demand.
ChickeNES 5d ago
I want to see the end of human labor entirely, so I say: "BRING IT ON!"

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fpauser 5d ago

Good argument. In the end we are all ignorant opportunists.

alansaber 5d ago
And how could we not be? The world is unfathomably big and complex, and each of us wants their own narrative (well that, and to economically support loved ones, etc...)

joenada 5d ago

The difference is that automated tasks are (or should be) deterministic and reproducible, and taking up time devs could be using to do their actual job (writing code, solving technical problems, etc).

keiferski 5d ago

Yup. If current-gen AIs were capable of writing articles, but not code, then devs wouldn't care at all. None of these articles would exist, and some new variation of "learn to code" would be the snarky reply to nay-sayers. In fact, we already pretty much have proof of this: devs didn't care when software destroyed the journalism industry twenty years ago. Turns out that people ultimately only care when their only jobs are on the line.

NateEag 5d ago
I'm a professional software developer. I would care if even these machines could only write articles, and I cared when software destroyed multiple forms of media delivery. I won't say it was all bad, unequivocally, but it made me sad and I tried to think of solutions. Turns out, alas, that make people are willing to trade away freedom, independence, privacy, and a functioning culture to save a few bucks and get dopamine hits on demand.

ChickeNES 5d ago

I want to see the end of human labor entirely, so I say: "BRING IT ON!"