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If the five eyes intelligence services aren't monitoring all biodefense researchers and bio chemists around the world all of the time they've probably failed in

If the five eyes intelligence services aren't monitoring all biodefense researchers and bio chemists around the world all of the time they've probably failed in their jobs.

analognoise 6d ago
Our current government can't even monitor for screwworm, measles, and salads. You think they can successfully track the smartest and most individually dangerous citizens, who have been previously vetted, and work inside the system already?
- dnautics 6d ago
  What are you talking about? There have been 5 (five) cases of screwworm in the us and the us is responding by producing millions of sterile male screwworms a day as we speak.
  - djeastm 5d ago
    This report says 49 confirmed cases as of a few days ago. https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/07/health/screwworm-billion-flies https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/07/health/screwworm-billion-flie... You're right about the countermeasures, but I can't help but look at 1971 (473 confirmed cases, then almost 100,000 the next year).
  - analognoise 5d ago
    Oh the Trump DOGE losers cut funding for the monitoring program, and it’s already showing up, despite being successfully managed for decades. Basically shocking levels of incompetence; start an unpopular war, lowest approval ratings of any president ever, pardon J6 traitors, $6/gallon diesel levels of incompetence.
    - dnautics 4d ago
      DOGE has only been a year and change. Screwworm does not suddenly appear like that.
- Terr_ 6d ago
  Let's be careful to separate capable-of from motivated-to. Those three "can't even monitor" situations can be traced to blocs with both (A) a financial profit if they succeed and (B) some non-clandestine political clout to sabotage/discontinue things.
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thephyber 6d ago
The CIA, FBI, and DoD are being ideologically purged. I would assume we are already in the "we are probably increasingly failing at our jobs" phase. It will only get worse as sovereign debt service takes a larger piece of the budget pie.
- AustinDev 6d ago
  The five eyes have four other eyes. But, from where I'm sitting the primary eye has only gotten stronger in the last 2 years. See some work we did in late 00's to early 2010's called Nexus 7 and extrapolate to modern capabilities.

If the five eyes intelligence services aren't monitoring all biodefense researchers and bio chemists around the world all of the time they've probably failed in their jobs.

analognoise 6d ago

Our current government can't even monitor for screwworm, measles, and salads. You think they can successfully track the smartest and most individually dangerous citizens, who have been previously vetted, and work inside the system already?

dnautics 6d ago
What are you talking about? There have been 5 (five) cases of screwworm in the us and the us is responding by producing millions of sterile male screwworms a day as we speak.
- djeastm 5d ago
  This report says 49 confirmed cases as of a few days ago. https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/07/health/screwworm-billion-flies https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/07/health/screwworm-billion-flie... You're right about the countermeasures, but I can't help but look at 1971 (473 confirmed cases, then almost 100,000 the next year).
- analognoise 5d ago
  Oh the Trump DOGE losers cut funding for the monitoring program, and it’s already showing up, despite being successfully managed for decades. Basically shocking levels of incompetence; start an unpopular war, lowest approval ratings of any president ever, pardon J6 traitors, $6/gallon diesel levels of incompetence.
  - dnautics 4d ago
    DOGE has only been a year and change. Screwworm does not suddenly appear like that.
Terr_ 6d ago
Let's be careful to separate capable-of from motivated-to. Those three "can't even monitor" situations can be traced to blocs with both (A) a financial profit if they succeed and (B) some non-clandestine political clout to sabotage/discontinue things.
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thephyber 6d ago

The CIA, FBI, and DoD are being ideologically purged. I would assume we are already in the "we are probably increasingly failing at our jobs" phase. It will only get worse as sovereign debt service takes a larger piece of the budget pie.

AustinDev 6d ago
The five eyes have four other eyes. But, from where I'm sitting the primary eye has only gotten stronger in the last 2 years. See some work we did in late 00's to early 2010's called Nexus 7 and extrapolate to modern capabilities.