I don't think we're particularly in disagreement here, I think pinnacle product in manys eyes can be both reputational(prob workstation) or economic in addition

I don't think we're particularly in disagreement here, I think pinnacle product in manys eyes can be both reputational(prob workstation) or economic in addition to technical, so my reply was mostly in terms of replying to the NFI part of that statement and not really in terms of any personal judgement.