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Anyone could have forked WordPress at any time or spun up their own multi tenant instances if they were truly concerned, this just seems personal. It’s a bad da

Anyone could have forked WordPress at any time or spun up their own multi tenant instances if they were truly concerned, this just seems personal. It’s a bad day for founders IMO.

minimaxir 7d ago
The entire saga started due to WP Engine "forking" WordPress.
- 0xDEADBEEFCAFE 7d ago
  So problem solved? My only criticism is that 1) Mr. Mullenweg should have held tighter controls over the IP and 2) the direction to the community that they are encouraged to use "WP" as a prefix for their business names and products was ultimately a bad one leading to this mess..
  - nixosbestos 7d ago
    Matt, ... just log out and take a break.
  - garbagepatch 7d ago
    Matt, you shouldn't have picked a FLOSS license if you didn't intend for the software to be FLOSS in the first place.
  - sehansen 6d ago
    If they'd done those two things Wordpress would probably have been far less successful. Which certainly is a way of making WP Engine not even want to do what they did. Heck, they would probably not even exist.
- kmeisthax 7d ago
  WP Engine's "forking" consisted of disabling the revisions feature by default. As someone who's personally been bitten by this particular WP Engine misfeature, describing this as a "fork" is disingenuous at best. The average Linux distro ships way more out-of-tree changes than WP Engine ever did.
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mission_dolores 7d ago
it's personal only in the sense that Matt had been doing an absolutely awful job leading the company for several years, and the board had fiduciary obligations to intervene this is not a bad day for founders; it's Matt having gotten to the end point of his value as a leader Don't get me wrong: getting to a point where you have 2,000 employees and a 7 billion dollar valuation is a massive accomplishment. He was clearly very effective at various parts of the company's history. But it scaled beyond the point where his skillset and personality could continue to credibly steer the ship
ubermonkey 6d ago
Look, a brand new account taking photomatt's side. Neat.
- minimaxir 6d ago
  tbh I don't think it's a Matt sockpuppet; Matt would definitely comment himself.
  - ubermonkey 5d ago
    Hilariously, he already has -- but was downvoted to oblivion.

Anyone could have forked WordPress at any time or spun up their own multi tenant instances if they were truly concerned, this just seems personal. It’s a bad day for founders IMO.

minimaxir 7d ago

The entire saga started due to WP Engine "forking" WordPress.

0xDEADBEEFCAFE 7d ago
So problem solved? My only criticism is that 1) Mr. Mullenweg should have held tighter controls over the IP and 2) the direction to the community that they are encouraged to use "WP" as a prefix for their business names and products was ultimately a bad one leading to this mess..
- nixosbestos 7d ago
  Matt, ... just log out and take a break.
- garbagepatch 7d ago
  Matt, you shouldn't have picked a FLOSS license if you didn't intend for the software to be FLOSS in the first place.
- sehansen 6d ago
  If they'd done those two things Wordpress would probably have been far less successful. Which certainly is a way of making WP Engine not even want to do what they did. Heck, they would probably not even exist.
kmeisthax 7d ago
WP Engine's "forking" consisted of disabling the revisions feature by default. As someone who's personally been bitten by this particular WP Engine misfeature, describing this as a "fork" is disingenuous at best. The average Linux distro ships way more out-of-tree changes than WP Engine ever did.
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mission_dolores 7d ago

it's personal only in the sense that Matt had been doing an absolutely awful job leading the company for several years, and the board had fiduciary obligations to intervene this is not a bad day for founders; it's Matt having gotten to the end point of his value as a leader Don't get me wrong: getting to a point where you have 2,000 employees and a 7 billion dollar valuation is a massive accomplishment. He was clearly very effective at various parts of the company's history. But it scaled beyond the point where his skillset and personality could continue to credibly steer the ship

ubermonkey 6d ago

Look, a brand new account taking photomatt's side. Neat.

minimaxir 6d ago
tbh I don't think it's a Matt sockpuppet; Matt would definitely comment himself.
- ubermonkey 5d ago
  Hilariously, he already has -- but was downvoted to oblivion.