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100% every word you wrote. I watched the Apple video. Thought it would be great to have this amazing GPS capable watch, with a cellular phone (that, I will

100% every word you wrote. I watched the Apple video. Thought it would be great to have this amazing GPS capable watch, with a cellular phone (that, I will confess, I did use three or four times and it was really good) - maps, remote finding of my phone, etc... Honestly - if it wasn't for the incessant nagging me to upgrade, letting me know it's going to upgrade, letting me know it had failed to upgrade, and the never ending useless notification that I kept having to edit/unsubscribe/remove stupid apps that I never installed - I probably wouldn't have switched for a short period of time. What I would have never predicted is how getting rid of all that noise has just made me so much happier. Also - didn't realize how much I hate having to charge my watch every 16 hours.

altmanaltman 7d ago
Yes that makes sense. But you know there are other options like Garmin that create really cool type of smart watches that you might actually find fitting to your needs. But my entire point was that you cannot compare a digital basic watch to apple's device that it calls a watch. Like its just a different device categorically imo and comparing things like battery etc is just not worth it. But you can compare similar categories like the example i mention and see how one smart watch matches against the other. Like if we want to buy a good fountain pen but settle on a pencil beacause we don't want to deal with the ink, we cannot pretend the pencil and the pen are equivalent products that have direct comparasions even though they serve the same utility of writing device
- ghshephard 6d ago
  I guess in my case it makes sense because - I used the Apple Watch Ultra as ... a watch. The only two "non-watch" features that I really ever used were: - Find my Iphone/Make it beep. That stopped working once I disabled the ringer because it was annoyingly loud during meetings. - Setting a timer for 5 minutes or whatever during booking. Takes < 1 second to do that on my phone. Everything else was stuff that the Casio does way better. And - need the phone for the camera - so it's always with me. It's kind of amazing to have a watch with a 7+ year battery. I spent about 4 years with my Ultra. Might keep it for stuff like hiking where I want to track elevaton and such - but the other 99% of the time I expect the Casio will be my goto.

altmanaltman 7d ago

Yes that makes sense. But you know there are other options like Garmin that create really cool type of smart watches that you might actually find fitting to your needs. But my entire point was that you cannot compare a digital basic watch to apple's device that it calls a watch. Like its just a different device categorically imo and comparing things like battery etc is just not worth it. But you can compare similar categories like the example i mention and see how one smart watch matches against the other. Like if we want to buy a good fountain pen but settle on a pencil beacause we don't want to deal with the ink, we cannot pretend the pencil and the pen are equivalent products that have direct comparasions even though they serve the same utility of writing device

ghshephard 6d ago
I guess in my case it makes sense because - I used the Apple Watch Ultra as ... a watch. The only two "non-watch" features that I really ever used were: - Find my Iphone/Make it beep. That stopped working once I disabled the ringer because it was annoyingly loud during meetings. - Setting a timer for 5 minutes or whatever during booking. Takes < 1 second to do that on my phone. Everything else was stuff that the Casio does way better. And - need the phone for the camera - so it's always with me. It's kind of amazing to have a watch with a 7+ year battery. I spent about 4 years with my Ultra. Might keep it for stuff like hiking where I want to track elevaton and such - but the other 99% of the time I expect the Casio will be my goto.