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Weird that they don't compare themselves to Palantir then! https://imgur.com/a/eKAQKSN https://imgur.com/a/eKAQKSN

by urams 7d ago

laimewhisps 7d ago
Why would you take any of these companies at their word? They know Palantir is toxic.
- urams 7d ago
  Your 4D chess model of their thinking is that the risk they run of mentioning a direct competitor, that their potential customers would also be considering, is so great that the value of that comparison is dwarfed by the costs of the risk, so they don't do it. This is some next level strategic thinking. I have to wonder, though, why doesn't Palantir mention them? https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Apalantir.com+samdesk https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Apalantir.com+samdesk They seem to mention actual competitors: https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Apalantir.com+c3 https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Apalantir.com+c3 Given your 4D chess logic, they really should be mentioning all their competitors to poison their wells.
  - laimewhisps 7d ago
    This isn't as complicated as you're making it. Both companies market themselves as surveillance tools for oppressive regimes. Flock is similar. Do they have exactly the same business model? No. But their brand is spying on the public and protecting those in power.
    - urams 7d ago
      "Motte? Meet Bailey." > Both companies market themselves as surveillance tools for oppressive regimes. Look at some of these "surveillance tools" that they are marketing to "oppressive regimes". Their website brags about these deeply oppressive surveillance features: - Identifying material threats to your workforce - Integration with Concur and your HRIS Look at some of the "oppressive regimes" they sell to, such as the evil Amnesty International: https://imgur.com/a/U4Zef3x https://imgur.com/a/U4Zef3x
      - laimewhisps 7d ago
        We're literally commenting on an article where this company tracked anti-AI activists and Anthropic actioned on that.
        urams 7d ago
        We're literally commenting on an article where Samdesk flagged a public protest to Anthropic security and Anthropic employees chose to not go by it. The absolute EVIL of a public protest being avoided by people is UNSPEAKABLE. That a company would ever even consider offering information about public protests to people is OPPRESSIVE.
        laimewhisps 7d ago
        Unironically yes.
        urams 6d ago
        Unironically oppressive: https://www.actiontogetherwest.org/bayarea https://www.actiontogetherwest.org/bayarea Unironically oppressive: https://indivisiblesf.org/events https://indivisiblesf.org/events Unironically oppressive: https://aroc.herokuapp.com/events/ https://aroc.herokuapp.com/events/ Per you.
        laimewhisps 6d ago
        Again, tracking anti-AI protests to help AI executives avoid being held responsible for their company's actions is oppressive. I don't care what PR this company does to try to whitewash its image. Their actions speak louder than their propaganda.

Weird that they don't compare themselves to Palantir then! https://imgur.com/a/eKAQKSN https://imgur.com/a/eKAQKSN

by urams 7d ago

Weird that they don't compare themselves to Palantir then! https://imgur.com/a/eKAQKSN https://imgur.com/a/eKAQKSN

laimewhisps 7d ago

Why would you take any of these companies at their word? They know Palantir is toxic.

urams 7d ago
Your 4D chess model of their thinking is that the risk they run of mentioning a direct competitor, that their potential customers would also be considering, is so great that the value of that comparison is dwarfed by the costs of the risk, so they don't do it. This is some next level strategic thinking. I have to wonder, though, why doesn't Palantir mention them? https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Apalantir.com+samdesk https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Apalantir.com+samdesk They seem to mention actual competitors: https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Apalantir.com+c3 https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Apalantir.com+c3 Given your 4D chess logic, they really should be mentioning all their competitors to poison their wells.
- laimewhisps 7d ago
  This isn't as complicated as you're making it. Both companies market themselves as surveillance tools for oppressive regimes. Flock is similar. Do they have exactly the same business model? No. But their brand is spying on the public and protecting those in power.
  - urams 7d ago
    "Motte? Meet Bailey." > Both companies market themselves as surveillance tools for oppressive regimes. Look at some of these "surveillance tools" that they are marketing to "oppressive regimes". Their website brags about these deeply oppressive surveillance features: - Identifying material threats to your workforce - Integration with Concur and your HRIS Look at some of the "oppressive regimes" they sell to, such as the evil Amnesty International: https://imgur.com/a/U4Zef3x https://imgur.com/a/U4Zef3x
    - laimewhisps 7d ago
      We're literally commenting on an article where this company tracked anti-AI activists and Anthropic actioned on that.
      - urams 7d ago
        We're literally commenting on an article where Samdesk flagged a public protest to Anthropic security and Anthropic employees chose to not go by it. The absolute EVIL of a public protest being avoided by people is UNSPEAKABLE. That a company would ever even consider offering information about public protests to people is OPPRESSIVE.
        laimewhisps 7d ago
        Unironically yes.
        urams 6d ago
        Unironically oppressive: https://www.actiontogetherwest.org/bayarea https://www.actiontogetherwest.org/bayarea Unironically oppressive: https://indivisiblesf.org/events https://indivisiblesf.org/events Unironically oppressive: https://aroc.herokuapp.com/events/ https://aroc.herokuapp.com/events/ Per you.
        laimewhisps 6d ago
        Again, tracking anti-AI protests to help AI executives avoid being held responsible for their company's actions is oppressive. I don't care what PR this company does to try to whitewash its image. Their actions speak louder than their propaganda.